The future of the web - what does it look like to you?

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#41

IMO that’s the main hurdle on the path of the evolution of the web today. Too much vested interests for corporations to allow any radical changes.

EDIT: Also this:

I am sad to report that this has been my experience every time I have read on these matters – our entire history shows forced authority wins every time. If you really make a good compelling case and the public is with you… then your sentiments can outright get outlawed, as a last resort. I see no way for us to be able to retort at all.


#42

There is a flaw in your logic too – you assume Joe is talking about direct financial incentives while he was actually talking about preserving knowledge for the future generations (@joeerl correct me if I am wrong).

Nobody cares if Gmail is gonna be around in 100 years. But I for one do care that all the scientific and art works of today are preserved in the said 100 years.


#43

Yeah this is something that terrifies me to be honest. We make a lot of information now, but we also lose a lot of information now…


#44

I think this is an interesting direction as well: https://solid.inrupt.com/
We have to go to a decentralized web pretty soon(P2P/Beaker) otherwise there won’t be a web soon. We already start seeing apps that work only in specific browsers or not being able to copy and paste simple text from web pages.


#45

I’m glad someone mentioned this. I watched this talk a couple of years ago by Carl Hewitt and it really started me thinking. At the time, it basically had me thinking that we’re only a few good data breaches away from all the collected data becoming a real detriment to those who possess it, paving the way for something like the “Islets” that Carl talks about.

I had read a little bit about what Tim Berners-Lee was working on with Solid and it seems that the two ideas are very similar. If Solid takes off, maybe it would be beneficial getting in early by building a Solid server with Elixir? Maybe Solid PODs & apps perhaps?

Erlang Factory SF 2015 Keynote - Carl Hewitt - Actors for CyberThings


#46

Very interesting indeed. Here Tim Berners-Lee explains more about solid.


#47

Another one tweeted by Tim:

https://fortheweb.webfoundation.org/principles-1


#48

I tried to use ocsigen a few times during the last 4 years since I wanted to code in OCaml again and the theory is nice. The problem is that it severely lacks in user friendliness as it’s done by researchers so not a damn is given about that. It’s more a proof of concept IMHO (unfortunately).