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								<p>Dockerized on AWS ECS via Fargate. A bit of work went into auto clustering but it was worth the effort.</p> 
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<p>We get quite a few hosting related questions, so I wonder whether it might be helpful if we can have a thread that talks about the kind of production set-ups everyone is using?</p>
<p>Do you use a dedicated server? VPS? The Cloud? Or…?</p>
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<p>Great topic <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/heart_eyes.png?v=15" title=":heart_eyes:" class="emoji" alt=":heart_eyes:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>What do you use to install on Amazon ESC. ?</p>
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<p>Do you use some container registry? Do you have some CI/CD  pipeline like push code to git → build container → push container to registry → install container from registry to AWS?</p>
<p>Also are there some best practices to put Erlang VM  into container? For example for JVM</p><aside class="onebox allowlistedgeneric" data-onebox-src="https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2017/03/14/java-inside-docker">
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								<p>Dedicated server from <a href="http://online.net" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">online.net</a>. I should probably actually get a few boxes instead of one big one to split things up. Too much running on one machine.</p> 
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								<p>I mostly have to use clients’ IT infrastructure, so the choice is not always mine. That creates deployment and operational challenges. Recent deployments have been to virtual servers running Centos 7. While I am responsible for operation of the servers, clients sometimes perform underling updates without notice! The most recent incident broke my Distillery deployment and left me with and Erlang crash dump.  For occasions where I do have a choice,  I am currently looking at Nixos.</p> 
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								<p>I use a Digital Ocean Droplet that I set up using  Docker Machine. This makes it easier (in my opinion) to run your docker containers in the “cloud”. My Elixir app, <a href="https://alloy-ci.com" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">AlloyCI</a>, is packaged as a container image and deployed using Docker Compose.</p>
<p>I still don’t have it set up as a CI job, but I would be really easy to have AlloyCI build and deploy itself <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I would just need to add a build job for <code>mix docker.shipit</code> and one for <code>docker-compose up -d</code>, both on the <code>deploy</code> stage, which would only be run after all the jobs in the previous stages have passed <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slightly_smiling_face.png?v=15" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" class="emoji" alt=":slightly_smiling_face:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I’m managing the infrastructure of a small startup developing a phoenix application. Our main host is a dedicated server serving as dom0 (xen hypervisor, dns server, firewall, vpn) hosting the following VMs:</p>
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<p>Backups are managed from a remote server using rsnapshot and barman (for postgres).</p>
<p>The phoenix application is built and tested by gitlab-ci. A merge to the <code>deployment</code> branch automatically builds the application for production and deploys it to the staging environment. If everything went fine, the repository’s administrator can manually trigger the final job of the pipeline to deploy to production [0]. We build the release using distillery (+ conform): we don’t have (and don’t want!) elixir installed on the production host [1].</p>
<p>All our hosts run debian and we don’t use containers [2] for now : the overhead is too high for the current scale of our infrastructure/services. <strong>Don’t use containers unless you need to</strong>, they add a layer of complexity and often create as many problems as they solve, if no more.</p>
<p>It’s a basic overview, feel free to ask for details (software, config, scripts, …) <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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[1] If elixir, mix &amp; co are installed on your production host, you’re most likely doing it wrong<br>
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<p>I’m using the container registry at AWS. Our Jenkins server builds code on commit, and deploys it to either development environment or production. The pipeline on jenkins looks roughly like this:</p>
<pre><code>Fetch source -&gt; Build -&gt; Run Test Suite -&gt; Run Dialyzer -&gt; Build Docker Image -&gt; Deploy
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<p>The deployment is done in two phases: First, a “staging” version is deployed in the real environment (with the real database), and a number of (additional) tests are performed on it. If all tests succeed, the docker image is deployed into the “live” environment.</p>
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								<p>Forgot to mention, <code>mix docker</code> uses Distillery internally to build a release binary. This is what gets copied to the final Docker image. The image I use for release is Debian based. (It would be possible to do it with Alpine, but I prefer to have a full Debian distro in the image)</p>
<p>Also the reason I chose Docker, is that it is by far the easiest way for someone to install AlloyCI in their servers. All they need to do is pull the image, and set it up with the correct ENV variables. It would be a lot more difficult to install otherwise. It is still possible to do it manually (we have instructions for this in the docs) but that requires manually building the release, and manually deploying it to a compatible server.</p> 
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								<p>I use <a href="http://gigalixir.com" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">gigalixir.com</a>, but I’m the founder so most likely biased <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> happy to answer any questions about it.</p> 
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