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								<p>I would also say that avoiding side-effects is not the same thing as <em>no</em> side effects.  Side effects are not bad.  Unintentional side effects are bad.</p> 
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								<p>I know, it is not re-assigning. - This is why I said “workaround for immutability”. It looks like.</p> 
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								<p>There is a lot of information, could someone make a summary.<br>
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								<p>I would rather use <a href="https://github.com/archan937/mecks_unit" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">GitHub - archan937/mecks_unit: A simple Elixir package to elegantly mock module functions within (asynchronous) ExUnit tests using Erlang's :meck library · GitHub</a> … (async) mocking using the Erlang <code>:meck</code> library. I don’t want to compromis (by altering my initial code and making things interchangeable) because I just want to unit test my code.</p> 
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								<p>Ok, cool. I’m very happy to know what you think about <a href="https://github.com/archan937/mecks_unit" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">MecksUnit</a>. And btw, I just pushed a new version in which defining mock modules are done far more elegantly <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/muscle.png?v=15" title=":muscle:" class="emoji" alt=":muscle:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<pre><code>defmodule Foo do
  def trim(string) do
    String.trim(string)
  end
end

defmodule MecksUnitTest do
  use ExUnit.Case, async: true
  use MecksUnit.Case

  defmock String do
    def trim("  Paul  "), do: "Engel"
    def trim("  Foo  ", "!"), do: "Bar"
    def trim(_, "!"), do: {:passthrough, ["  Surprise!  !!!!", "!"]}
    def trim(_, _), do: :passthrough
  end

  defmock List do
    def wrap(:foo), do: [1, 2, 3, 4]
  end

  mocked_test "using mocked module functions" do
    task =
      Task.async(fn -&gt;
        assert "Engel" == String.trim("  Paul  ")
        assert "Engel" == Foo.trim("  Paul  ")
        assert "Bar" == String.trim("  Foo  ", "!")
        assert "  Surprise!  " == String.trim("  Paul  ", "!")
        assert "MecksUnit" == String.trim("  MecksUnit  ")
        assert "Paul Engel" == String.trim("  Paul Engel  ", " ")
        assert [1, 2, 3, 4] == List.wrap(:foo)
        assert [] == List.wrap(nil)
        assert [:bar] == List.wrap(:bar)
        assert [:foo, :bar] == List.wrap([:foo, :bar])
      end)

    Task.await(task)
  end
end
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<p>Please note that you have to use <code>defmock</code> and <code>mocked_test</code>. Nice, huh?</p> 
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