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								<p>Elixir saves you all that strange lengthy needless JAVA compile and recompile time. Even on the fastest machines, JAVA compile time is long. Elixir is plug and play.</p> 
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								<p>yes you need to <code>heavy</code>  machine for java <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/grinning.png?v=15" title=":grinning:" class="emoji" alt=":grinning:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>If you think Java compilation is long, you need to try compiling a scala program <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Thanks for the awesome support! I am going through project lombok. Intellij have been my favourite IDE for last 5 years <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I am planning to use spring boot. Will check out Ninja, Jhipster and Java spark. Jhipster looks more promising. Will be learning Kotlin for buliding android app.</p> 
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<p>I admit, I have experimented with many languages and frameworks, the ones drove me crazy and made me real upset were Scala / Jhipster / Spring boot .. <a class="mention" href="/u/ladco" rel="nofollow">@ladco</a> .. I still use JAVA for Android development, but other than that I don’t write JAVA.</p>
<p><a class="mention" href="/u/ladco" rel="nofollow">@ladco</a>, I recall Elixir made me confused at the beginning, since it does things in new and not standard ways compared to OOP/c#/Java, yet it is fun once you learn it <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>First of all Java is becoming is functional. I dumped Java 9 years ago for groovy and grails for its functional flavour and meta programming capabilities resulting in less verbose and more readable code (Convincing customers that they get Java byte code that will run their Tomcat/JBoss servers). I am using Elixir and Phoenix now because of the same reasons. All our new products are being written using the power of Elixir OTP. In a way declarative programming is less confusing and more natural than Imperative programming.</p> 
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