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								<p>I have been using an Herman Miller Aeron as well since about 8 years.<br>
At the time the price was steep but I swallowed it.</p>
<p>Overall, people trying it for the first time seem to be amazed by the feel of the mesh, and my experience confirms that the mesh part itself is indeed truly excellent.</p>
<p>However, I never really got comfortable with the feel of the front edge of the chair under my legs, which I find too hard. And generally speaking, the way the frame is built make it really uncomfortable to use the chair in any other position than the standard sitting one. I wish often that I had a chair that I could cross one or both of my legs lotus-style, sit sideways or even in reverse, with the chair’s back in front, like you can with regular dining room chairs.</p>
<p>With time, my conclusion is that aiming for a single “best-practice” posture does not work. You need the flexibility to change your posture often, even if just for a few minutes. I am alternating between a bean bag with my laptop on its own, the aeron when at the desk with the laptop connected to external monitors/mouse/keyboard via a single-cable thunderbolt dock and the base of a low-cost office chair (I removed the back of it) to cross my legs on or simply change posture from the Aeron.</p>
<p>It’s exactly like programming: <a href="http://worrydream.com/refs/Brooks-NoSilverBullet.pdf" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">There Is No Silver Bullet</a></p> 
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								<p>I used a <a href="http://www.kneelsit.com/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Kneelsit</a> for about 5 years, and was quite happy with it, largely because of the rocking motion of the seat.  Unfortunately they are no longer being made, and finding one on the used market is challenging.</p>
<p>My current favorite is a <a href="https://store.steelcase.com/seating/office-chairs/leap" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Steelcase Leap V2</a> which can be found quite affordably on the used market.  I still swap to an exercise ball occasionally, but the Leap is great for long periods of prolonged hacking.</p> 
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								<p>I switched to using an electronic height adjustable desk a few years ago with the intention of alternating between sitting and standing. I used the chair so infrequently that I no longer even have one around and stand for 100% of my time at the computer. I haven’t encountered any problems with standing up for an entire working day.</p>
<p>I can highly recommend the flexibility that a height adjustable desk gives you, even if you don’t find standing up works out you can still adjust the desk to the perfect sitting height. IKEA sell reasonably priced electric and manual <a href="https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/desks/office-desks/standing-desks-1364384236922/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">height adjustable desks</a>.</p> 
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								<p>I actually have an adjustable standing desk and use it quite a bit. My desk is u-shaped though so I can’t really use the rest of it without a chair. Plus I find that I prefer sitting when I have meetings.</p>
<p>Totally with you on the standing desk, but I still need a chair for sometimes.</p> 
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								<p>I had no idea so many people are using standing desks… I might have to try it now <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I’m totally happy with this chair that has a swinging seat so it’s not as static as normal chairs.<br>
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								<p>The key is having a good anti-fatigue mat to stand on.</p> 
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								<p>I did not know about those at all, thanks!</p> 
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								<p>I would exercise caution about standing for long periods tbh:</p>
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<p>Among the many risk factors for varicose veins, such as family history, aging, pregnancy, obesity, and leg trauma, one of the greatest risks is standing for long periods. This risk is prominent among working populations, where employees in certain occupations must stand for long periods of time without being able to walk or sit during a shift. In operating rooms, for example, nurses and doctors must stand for many hours during surgical procedures. Similarly, direct care nurses, hairdressers, and store clerks spend large fractions of their working time standing without the ability to sit down.</p>
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<p>When we think about natural human behaviour we just weren’t intended to stand for long hours per day. Walking, yes, sitting in a squat position, yes, lying down even - but not standing in one place for long periods.</p>
<p>Re posture, this might help:</p>
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								<p>I also have a standing desk, which I enjoy. To <a class="mention" href="/u/astonj" rel="nofollow">@AstonJ</a> 's point though, I pace when I’m thinking, and tend to sit if the immediate road is clear and I will actually be typing for a while (as opposed to debugging, research, or all the other activities that can surround general computer use and programming specifically).</p>
<p>I’m actually also in the market for a chair though, and a friend recommended <a href="https://www.madisonseating.com" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.madisonseating.com</a> which has many of those high end chairs for much lower rates. I haven’t bought one there myself yet, though I likely will soon.</p> 
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