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								<p>1100 euro for an unpowered treadmill seems excessive unless you’re going for the craft treadmill market(is that a thing?). The problem I’ve had trying unpowered treadmills is either they have too much friction causing them to be a lot more work/tiring or they don’t have enough and then you struggle to balance.  I got my first powered one off amazon for like $150aud so less than 1/10th and even that was quiet enough, though I wear headphones.  My current one is a bit more expensive but it folds in half for storage.</p>
<p>I expect they’ll get a few sales but I’d be surprised at even a 1% conversion from the wait list.</p>
<p>When not walking(rare) I use an Aeron for work and at my electronics lab desk I just use a simple wooden chair I’ve borrowed from my dining table(accidentally bought a 6 seat dining table and live alone I have some to spare).</p>
<p>I’m also known to sit in my recliner and work sometimes too.</p> 
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								<p>I have a peloton and I got a plastic “desktop” insert for the handle bars that can hold my laptop.  The screen is at an awkward angle so I can’t do it for long but its certainly usable while riding though I’m not exactly racing.  I imagine if you could fit it under a desk so the keyboard was in a good spot and the monitors higher it’d be pretty nice!</p> 
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								<p>Yeah it’s kinda crazy really - you can get a really good motorised one for that price.</p>
<p>Do you find your treadmill makes your hips hurt? How long do you use yours for? I was going on mine for about 5 hours a day. Maybe I am just used to walking up mountains <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Not 5 hours! If I’m working at my desk tops is probably 2 hours of walking though average probably closer to 1-1.5 and the rest I’m just standing on it while its not moving.  I rarely sit.</p>
<p>I tend to “dance walk” for lack of a better term(imagine the ok go video with a single treadmill) so I occasionally get sore in the knees if I’m twisting too much but not in the hips.</p> 
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								<p>Ah I see. It’s such a pain putting it in place and then away again so I made sure I was getting my money’s worth, haha! But seriously, walking for 5 hours is not a problem for me - it’s just the unnatural movement that bothers me, and I worry it might be doing more harm than food - at least compared to something like a bike.</p>
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<p>I’ve made such a video as part of a planned youtube video about routines.  I don’t think it will be seeing the light of day <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/sweat_smile.png?v=15" title=":sweat_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":sweat_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I look a lot cooler in my head for sure <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/rofl.png?v=15" title=":rofl:" class="emoji" alt=":rofl:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p><sup><em>PS I just went to <a href="https://shawnonthe.net/" rel="nofollow">https://shawnonthe.net/</a> in case there was anything on there but it’s giving me a 502 as a bad gateway..</em></sup></p> 
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								<p>Thanks for the heads up.  I move and redo shawnonthenet so often it’s only up about 20% of the time <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/shushing_face.png?v=15" title=":shushing_face:" class="emoji" alt=":shushing_face:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I should probably stop advertising the url</p> 
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