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								<p>José,</p>
<p>I am not certain that I understood your announcement correctly. First you say</p>
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<p>Therefore, I am announcing that Ecto has become API stable. I will continue to update it and fix bugs, but no new features are planned nor will be accepted.</p>
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<p>which seem in contradiction.</p>
<p>Put simply:</p>
<p>Is there any chance for an Ecto 4.0 to happen in the future or not?<br>
Or there will be only Ecto 3.x maintenance versions?</p>
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								<p>why not announce you are stepping back from ecto development and interested parties should express interest in continuing development (or ask them to fork and rename if you want to retain control of ecto itself)? pronouncing that ecto will accept no new features makes it seem like you are shutting down development to everyone</p> 
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								<p>Forking and/or renaming is always an option because of the license Ecto uses. The core team will maintain Ecto as it is today. The last paragraphs of the post outlined options for people that want to continue to add features to Ecto, what do you think is missing there?</p> 
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								<p>I thought the sentence below was pretty clear in that regard:</p>
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<p>How I understand it is that its feature complete now and if someone needs a specific use case, they can write a plugin, or fork and build on it. And if a new general use case appears in the future that should be added to ecto it will be added after discussion.</p> 
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								<p>if someone wants to add a new feature to ecto what’s the process? fork? ask to take over maintenance? make a pull request despite jose announcing no new features will be considered?</p> 
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<p>Isn’t that what the announcement says? Quoting:</p>
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<p>The only reason I did not announce I am stepping down from Ecto is because it still has to be maintained until said parties step up. But if you feel like that is not necessary, I am ok with not having to maintain it either. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Are there actually missing features you‘d like or need? If not, I feel like it‘s not worth having this discussion right now - often times people worry about things that eventually will never happen.</p> 
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<p>Is it finally possible to <a href="https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto/issues/1964" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">start / configure multiple repos dynamically</a>? I haven’t seen any mentions of it in the ecto v3 announcements.</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/servers-and-stuff/dynamic_repo_sqlite" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">The last time</a> I <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/can-ecto-repos-be-started-dynamically/16411" rel="nofollow">tried to do that</a>, I had to use internal ecto functions which wasn’t particularly convenient.</p>
<p>But for the majority of use-cases ecto probably does do everything that it needs to.</p> 
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