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								<p>Hey just a few clarifications.</p>
<p>For all discussion below I’m using <code>n1-highcpu-64</code> which is defined as:</p>
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<li><em>“High-CPU machine type with 64 vCPUs and 57.6 GB of memory.”</em></li>
<li><em>“For the n1 series of machine types, a vCPU is implemented as a single hardware hyper-thread”</em></li>
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<li>I notice you did <code>+S 128</code> with <code>6400m</code> but above you used <code>+S 24</code> with <code>12000m</code>. Is it supposed to be <code>1000 * # of cores / 2</code> or <code>100 * # of cores / 2</code></li>
<li>I’m a little confused on the teriminology of “cores”. My server has 64 vCPU from hyperthreading. I assumed that means I have 64 cores, 64 vCPUs, and 32 “actual” hardware CPUs. Is that correct?</li>
<li>You mention leaving a little extra space for KubeDNS. Do I set those limits for KubeDNS by limiting the resources for my app? Or is there a way to set it ‘directly’? Can I have you confirm these numbers for sanity on a single node specified above?</li>
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<p><strong>number of nodes</strong></p>
<pre><code>1 n1-highcpu-64
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<p><strong>number of pods</strong></p>
<pre><code>1
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<p><strong>imaginary number of CPUs allocated to KubeDNS</strong></p>
<pre><code>2
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<p><strong>vm.args</strong></p>
<pre><code>+S 124
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<p><strong>pod spec (not sure on multiplier)</strong></p>
<pre><code>  limits:
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  requests:
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<p><strong>Edit</strong> <code>cpu: 62000m</code> just defaults to <code>cpu: "62"</code> in GKE so I’m sure that’s right. Now my only question… do I allow more CPU’s for KubeDNS by doing it this way or do I specify explicitly for KubeDNS elsewhere and leave this at <code>"64"</code> instead of “62”`</p> 
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								<p>Those are the settings I used and it didn’t seem to do anything. I’ve confirmed <code>-S 126</code> is being passed to the command line, I made sure the YAML is set with <code>"62"</code> for both restrictions for the pod.</p>
<p>It’s really struggling with 40K/min (90% failure rate). So this appears to have 2x the performance, but in my above example with multiple apps I had almost 8-10x the performance, so I’m assuming something is still blocking</p>
<p>I do notice that <code>:observer_cli</code> now has a million more green bars (I’m assuming its showing schedulers). It does stop at <code>99</code> though, and in the system section it says <code>126 schedulers set, 64 online</code>. not sure what that means.. whether its a limitation of the library or if some of these actually arent running</p> 
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								<p>Here’s what it looks like when theres a 98% timeout/failure rate. Sorted by reductions as well as MsgQ</p>
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								<p>bash-4.4# netstat -atn | grep TIME_WAIT | wc -l</p>
<pre><code>10101
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<p>Ran it again: lol</p>
<pre><code>28568
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<p>It hovers around ~1700 when all things are working properly, give or take +/-200</p>
<p>I’ll watch it to see when something goes wrong</p>
<p>TIMEOUT count seems to hover at about ~4% of incoming requests. when things go wrong its like 40-50% of incomign requests.</p> 
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								<p>Being naive as possible, also because I do not have experience in this kind of load. I would suggest to take a look at the cloud provider, when you had more instances it behaved better, when switched to Google Cloud it also got better, the VM has enough resources to work I would say since nothing is maxed out, so it might be under the outgoing sockets and connections. One thing that I looked is the <a href="https://cloud.google.com/appengine/quotas#Sockets" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">quotas page for Google Cloud AppEngine</a> and seems that they cap at 19.200 outgoing requests/min. The K8s Engine quota page does not have enough information, only about containers, pods limits.</p> 
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								<p>Very cool I will check this out. Just to be clear though, in my original post I mentioned that I tested 1 app instance on 1 very large server, and it performed poorly, and I tested 12 app instances on the very same server (I didn’t scale instances).</p>
<p>With that said, maybe somehow sockets get allocated to individual apps or something? I’m not sure.</p>
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								<p>I just noticed thats for Google App ENgine which i’m not using</p> 
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<p><code>netstat -tpan</code> (writing from head no access to man pages so verify the flags please) will show established connections. There will be a SendQ and RecvQ column there.</p>
<p>you can also run <code>dmesg</code> maybe the conntrack table is overflowing. There should be a message in there if this is happening</p> 
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								<p>No idea if those numbers are fine or not fine. There’s an incredibly detailed TIME_WAIT write up here:</p>
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<p>The tldr you could try is checking if <code>net.ipv4.tcp_tw_reuse</code> is set and if it’s not enabling it and re-running your tests.</p>
<p>I’m still not sure this is the actual problem but it’s worth trying to see if it makes any difference imho</p> 
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								<p>It looks like the netststat you have installed is from BusyBox. Perhaps it would help to install the full version?</p> 
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