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								<p>It’s a YAPP (Yet Another Proprietary Platform)</p> 
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								<p>Of course, it is only a matter of time until someone builds an alternative on top of the foundation provided by <a href="https://planga.io/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Planga</a>, and then we’ll have a nice free, open-source alternative that to top it off will even use Elixir under the hood <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/angel.png?v=15" title=":angel:" class="emoji" alt=":angel:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> . (<em>cough</em> shameless plug <em>cough</em>)</p> 
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    Has anyone messed with <a href="https://zulip.org/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://zulip.org/</a> as of yet?  I ran across it recently, seems interesting as well.
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Clojure has a Zulip chat and the cool thing is that it also archives the slack channel, so it’s easily searchable.</p> 
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								<p>I think the only truly non-proprietary chat would be based on IPFS because it’s truly decentralized.</p> 
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								<p>Is IPFS truly decentralized? If the node that is persisting your data goes down, your data goes down… You need to cultivate a network of nodes to back up your data if you want it to persist over time, which seems distributed but centralized to me</p>
<p>Relevant link: <a href="https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-permanent-is-data-stored-on-ipfs/354/3" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">How permanent is data stored on IPFS? - #3 by flyingzumwalt - Help - IPFS Forums</a></p> 
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								<p>If you want to persist your data, you need to pin it; there is no “free lunch”. Presumably though, if someone values the data, they will pin it too, which I believe is a reasonable trade-off altogether. For instance, if you had a Facebook-like site which your ipfs-enabled browser allowed you to click a “like” button which, under the hood would perform an ipfs pin command on a node other than the original post, that would be far more decentralized than Facebook now.</p> 
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								<p>Does anyone have experience with <a href="https://matrix.org" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">matrix</a> by the way?</p> 
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<p>I’ve used it a little, it’s IRC integration was extremely lagged, and setting up a server was not terribly simple.</p>
<p>On another hand I’ve been playing with zulip, thinking of setting it up for an open source project I manage the backend of.  It’s IRC integration is simple and fast, and easy to modify to add more features as well.  It has web, electron-desktop (win/mac/*nix), and native android/ios clients (and a really awesome pure-terminal client too, soo surprisingly awesome!), all open source, good auth integrations, full history, easy to link to unlike slack, it’s very Discourse’y actually, if you were to make a Discourse style chat I’d say it would be Zulip, lots and lots of other little features as well (it would be entirely possible to make a bot that maps discourse to zulip both ways in a stream actually).  It’s also <em>really</em> easy to whip up instances of it, in fact let me do that so whoever wants can play around with it (don’t expect this instance to be up permanently, this wouldn’t be the appropriate server for it if I did that anyway):  <a href="https://elixir.chat.gregtech.overminddl1.com/join/8tx7v1cm6y864c11x71pcj02/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://elixir.chat.gregtech.overminddl1.com/join/8tx7v1cm6y864c11x71pcj02/</a><br>
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