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								<p>thank you!</p> 
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								<p>I’m looking for kinda the same thing that is a client library (named and/or plain vanilla js) that works well with PhoenixLiveView. What I’ve experimented with so far are Elm, Svelte and Vue.</p>
<p>It turns out virtual dom or no virtual dom doesn’t matter; they don’t work well as integration. I have used <code>phx-ignore</code> which is great, the 3rd party widgets don’t get patched and we can put phx-* events inside them to do things on server. However, having multiple compilers or engines controlling the same container is an anti-pattern (shared mutable state).</p>
<p>The ideal js lib should be able to embed inside live view AND have live view embeds inside their containers (note that I say live view instead of morphdom because we consider as a whole). Tbh, those jQuery plugins was working ok together.</p>
<p>Ok, real question is; is there a ui lib that works with LiveView very nicely? I haven’t tested Stimulusjs but it seems to integrate well ..</p> 
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								<p>any updates on this?<br>
Can we now achieve Optimistic Ui updates with Phoenix liveView?</p> 
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								<p>I thought optimistic UI updates were frontend related, not backend…</p>
<p>It means You don’t wait the server response to update UI, but if the server response fails, it can be rolled back.</p>
<p>Given that liveview is server related, I don’t see how this could be working. (Without help of JS)</p> 
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								<p><em>I asked this question an year ago, but I can’t edit that question or reply to it. Looks like it’s locked or something. That’s why I’m asking this question again.</em></p>
<p>Since its introduction, much has changed in Phoenix LiveView. Is it possible today to achieve <a href="https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/performance/optimistic-ui/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Optimistic UI</a> / <a href="http://www.discovermeteor.com/blog/latency-compensation/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Latency Compensation</a> without using Graphql and Apollo client with just Phoenix LiveView?</p>
<p>Latency Compensation and Optimistic UI are two names for the same thing, first introducted in Meteorjs and then in Apollo Graphql, both of which are created by the same team.</p> 
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<p>The thread was in an archived section - moved here and merged your newer thread into it <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Yes, but the client state is managed on the server <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Since its introduction, much has changed in Phoenix LiveView. Is it possible today to achieve <a href="https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/performance/optimistic-ui/" rel="nofollow">Optimistic UI </a> / <a href="http://www.discovermeteor.com/blog/latency-compensation/" rel="nofollow">Latency Compensation </a> without using Graphql and Apollo client with just Phoenix LiveView?</p>
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