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								<p>Anybody got good recommendations for a mouse that is:</p>
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<li>Wired but might have a wireless variant? Or ideally, becomes a wired mouse when plugged in like <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Spectrum-Professional-Wireless-Ambidextrous/dp/B01CEFEMFW" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">my favorite Logitech G900</a> is?</li>
<li><em>Not</em> needing software, or the software is 100% open and can be used on Linux as well?</li>
<li>Obviously of high quality, durable and precise?</li>
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<p>I love my two G900s to bits but it’s very obvious their algorithm to have smoother scrolling and etc. tricks that they do Windows are not well utilized on macOS so I am basically having an expensive mouse that I can never use to its full potential.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Logitech’s software for mice just gets worse with time. I ended up uninstalling it from my macOS, it was regularly consuming more CPU than it should and regularly had trouble updating itself and then it refuses to load / run after update (which happens to this day fairly regularly on my Windows machine).</p>
<p>So it seems it’s time to part ways with Logitech. Especially after <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/logitech-has-an-idea-for-a-forever-mouse-thatrequires-a-subscription/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">their CEO dropped this gem</a>.</p> 
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								<p>I’ve been doing well with Zowie (EC1):</p>
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<li>no software</li>
<li>quick switch polling and resolution on the bottom</li>
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<li>large + heavy (compared to trendier mice)</li>
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								<p>Thanks! Adding it to my list that I’ve been slowly composing in the last months.</p> 
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								<p>Personally I would highly recommend you try the Magic Mouse and try to live with it not being wired. it requires no addition drivers (a big plus imo and part of the reason I stick with an Apple keyboard too), scrolling is very natural (and customisable) and swiping left/right is invaluable. You can even double tap to zoom in/out. Highly recommend at least giving one a go…</p> 
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								<p>I had 3. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Personally I am not a fan of making gestures on the mouse though. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/frowning.png?v=15" title=":frowning:" class="emoji" alt=":frowning:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I use Logitech MX518’s, both an original one (still going!) and the new refresh version. Just too comfortable to give up after a couple decades of using it.</p> 
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								<p>On my desktop I have a razer deathadder 2013 version that was bought somewhere in 2015. It’s been used to the extreme in games (I can account to at least 4k hours of games) and it still works as the first day (if I dust it off <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smile.png?v=15" title=":smile:" class="emoji" alt=":smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20">).</p>
<p>For wireless choices, logitech is extremely hard to beat, both in terms of reliability and comfort. I am currently using a k295 wireless mouse+ keyboard setup for my docking station setup and I can say that I am pretty happy with the setup. The only general problem I have is that I constantly switch between mac and linux notebooks and I always fight that keyboard.</p> 
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								<p>OK so I got a bit impulsive again and bought the <a href="https://cherryxtrfy.com/mice/m4-wireless-white/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Xtrfy M4 Wireless White</a>.</p>
<p>          <a href="https://cherryxtrfy.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Xtrfy-M4-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse_Hero-02.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc" class="onebox">
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<p>Using for no more than 4 hours so far and I already love it a lot!</p>
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<li>Super lightweight. My <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Spectrum-Professional-Wireless-Ambidextrous/dp/B01CEFEMFW" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Logitech G900</a> is like a brick and it really started annoying me in the last months. Not fun to have the muscles at the middle of your hand be exhausted after work.</li>
<li>CPI (DPI but not quite), color, color effects, even various delays for lift-off and a few others, are fully configurable with combination of buttons and one switch (a “mode” switch) with zero software needed. This is what I was looking for.</li>
<li>Actually beautiful. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></li>
<li>I love the Swiss cheese aesthetic but I am sure that 3-6 months down the line I’ll curse a lot when I have to disassemble it to clean it up. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></li>
<li>Wireless, works just fine when plugged in to charge. No interruptions.</li>
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<p>So far a huge win for my work machine. Configured it perfectly for myself in 6 minutes, of which 2 went to find and watch a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSsT79TPBkw" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">75 seconds video on YouTube by Xtrfy</a>.</p>
<p>Granted it’s a bit expensive – 70 EUR in Bulgaria. But I view it as an at least 5 years of investment. One can only hope. I really want peripherals that don’t need baby-sitting software inside your current OS. So far this mouse delivers great.</p> 
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								<p>90% of the time I move and click the mouse cursor using programmable mouse layer on my keyboard (UHK v2). It works really well, and I’m very proficient with it.</p>
<p>When I have to grab my mouse I have Logitech G502.</p> 
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