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								<p>haha yeah the return values of bang methods in ruby are a bad surprise indeed.. this also leads to the fact that you can not safely chain them. I mean, you can chain them if they always modify something and return something but once when they don’t… BOOM.</p>
<p>One of the very unintuitive parts. I hope they change it in 3.0 but guess they won’t <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/cry.png?v=15" title=":cry:" class="emoji" alt=":cry:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>It’s actually intentional.  It allows for code of this style (borrow from Perl):</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="ruby"><code class="lang-ruby">&gt;&gt; s = "cows"
=&gt; "cows"
&gt;&gt; if s.sub!(/s\z/, "")
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You now have a cow
=&gt; nil
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<p>That again brings up 'Wouldn’t it be better to return true/false instead of a potentially usable value from death?`.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Since it ‘sometimes’ returns <code>self</code> it seems like you could do <code>myArray.uniq!.sort</code>, but that will die at times, seemingly very randomly too.  ^.^</p>
<p>With proper typing that would be impossible, either you’d always have to return <code>self</code>, so <code>.sort</code> would always work, or you’d have to return some variant of <code>self | nil</code>, meaning you’d have to match on it or default it out or so.  <code>true | false</code> makes so much more sense in that context.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Yeah, I’m totally explaining and not defending this design choice.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smile.png?v=15" title=":smile:" class="emoji" alt=":smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Fixed.</p>
<p><a href="https://leanpub.com/combinators/read" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Kestrels, Quirky Birds, and Hopeless Egocentricity</a><br>
by <a href="https://twitter.com/raganwald?lang=en" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Reg Braithwaite</a></p>
<p>Also <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t75HPU2c44" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Reginald Braithwaite - JavaScript Combinators (2016)</a></p> 
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