Yep, that is the point of japronto, it is trying to minimize the overall python code. Still pretty easy to use though (not that I’ve created any new python web server in about 5 years now). 
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lingster
Hi, I’m an django dev whose just crossing into the elixir world. One the things I’m missing is an admin interface, which in django comes out of the box. I see there have been projects such as ExAdmin/Talon, but what are the currently top admin tools for elixir that are still maintained and ready for production use?
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mythicalprogrammer
wolfiton
Torch looks awesome, nice interface and self generating admin what more do you need!
Is it Christmas!
Thanks very much for sharing @mythicalprogrammer
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garrypolley
I’ve used Django a lot, largely because of the tight coupling between the ORM, validation, and frontend rendering.
How would you all recommend someone new to Phoenix and Elixir get a similar feel and productivity level? I’m willing to write code, but I’d rather not write all the code. In reading it and going through a small workshop of Phoenix and LiveView, there are really cool pieces. However, I also feel like I’ll need to write a lot of features/pieces that the tight build the ORM and Django give me out of the box. Any libs and recommendations on how to accomplish the same sort of flow?
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AstonJ
Welcome 
I’m not too familiar with the current state of Django (when I looked at it when I was deciding between it and Ruby/Rails its main advantage in my view was its built in admin panel) however with regards to the ORM we have Ecto, which is pretty fantastic 
I wrote some of my thoughts about Ecto in my review of the Programming Ecto (Pragprog) - #40 by AstonJ book (it might also give you a glimpse into some of the other benefits of Elixir).
With regards to ACP tools we have some too - though of course not as highly coupled as what you may find in Django: Packages | Hex*
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Kurisu
maz
There is a new one called Mandarin, though it appears to be relatively early in development.
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jslearner
Use Django instead of Phoenix. Try to do a project in both and you will realize it’s faster and easier to develop in Django.
Phoenix has potential but needs to mature more.
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dimitarvp
Nobody is disputing that Rails and Django might be quicker to make a minimum viable product on. But both have scaling problems and you have to start throwing dollars at your hosting much earlier than you’d do with Phoenix. Additionally, especially with Rails, organising code when your projects grows big becomes really hard.
Please clarify?
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