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								<p>Oban v0.12.0 is out with some fun features, testing improvements, bug fixes and a helpful (optional) migration for large pruning operations. Thanks to all of the contributors who made this one possible!</p>
<p>From the <a href="https://github.com/sorentwo/oban/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#0120--2019-11-26" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">CHANGELOG</a></p>
<p><strong>Migration Optional (V7)</strong></p>
<p>The queries used to prune by limit and age are written to utilize a single partial index for a huge performance boost on large tables. The new V7 migration will create the index for you—but that may not be ideal for tables with millions of completed or discarded jobs because it can’t be done concurrently.</p>
<p>If you have an extremely large jobs table you can add the index concurrently in a dedicated migration:</p>
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								<p>For people interested in Oban, Parker Selbert (<a class="mention" href="/u/sorentwo" rel="nofollow">@sorentwo</a>) was recently on the ElixirMix podcast talking about it.</p>
<p><a href="https://devchat.tv/elixir-mix/emx-079-oban-with-parker-selbert/" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://devchat.tv/elixir-mix/emx-079-oban-with-parker-selbert/</a></p> 
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								<p>I’ve switched a production app to Oban, the change from Exq has been super smooth, and I’ve also been able to get rid of Quantum and Redis.</p>
<p>So far it’s been working for 48 hours and processed 150K jobs, zero problems <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/+1.png?v=15" title=":+1:" class="emoji" alt=":+1:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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								<p>Well, Redis is about a lot of more load than that, then regular database becomes overloaded</p> 
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								<p>Redis is excellent in many capacities but persistent storage isn’t one of them. When background jobs are doing work that is important to your business then you should treat them like the rest of your data.</p>
<p>You’d have to do a <em>massive</em> amount of background work to overload a production PG database. Redis is fast, but it is single threaded and when you do complex work on the server (e.g. with lua scripts) then it can get overloaded as well—a medium-traffic system I work on has <em>70k+ timeout errors</em> from Redis over the past several months. Application level pooling doesn’t help much either because the server on the other end is still only single threaded.</p> 
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<p>This one might be application specific. I am cautious about extracting meaning about Redis based on this. I do agree, though, that having persistence through Postgres for jobs is really useful and is one of the best parts of using PG for a job server. My application does about 10k+ inserts/job processes per second to Redis (through Sidekiq LUA scripts) at peak and I haven’t seen these timeouts before.</p>
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<p>Application pooling is pretty significant with Redis, and I would say is almost required for production usage, because it parallelizes the network traffic with Redis. The work is still single-threaded, but the network time is significantly reduced. Here is an image that demonstrates the same amount of work in a singular vs pooled Redis environment. The pooling would have a significant impact here.</p>
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<p>None of this has much to do with Oban, though. Postgres works great for 99% of applications, and could be tuned with something like Citus for extremely high throughput environments. Many people will choose not having another tool in their stack, so they’ll choose Oban.</p> 
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<p>This one might be application specific. I am cautious about extracting meaning about Redis based on this. I do agree, though, that having persistence through Postgres for jobs is really useful and is one of the best parts of using PG for a job server. My application does about 10k+ inserts/job processes per second to Redis (through Sidekiq LUA scripts) at peak and I haven’t seen these timeouts before.</p>
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<p>Totally fair. That is <em>definitely</em> application specific and Redis is being used as the glue between a lot of things in that system (in addition to Sidekiq LUA and Kiq LUA scripts). I only meant to illustrate that Redis can have timeouts too when it gets enough load.</p> 
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								<p>Fair enough and a good thing to remember! I was very sad when my Redis bandwidth maxed out due to an application specific issue once.</p> 
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