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								<p>I made the terrible mistake of updating to macOS Catalina on Monday and now have the issue where my iMac crashes and reboots when it goes to sleep because I have two external displays attached. This has apparently been an issue for months for many people, I just never found the discussion posts about it until after it happened to me. That combined with no longer needing a Mac for my day-job and a general feeling that the quality of macOS is declining steadily means that I am seriously looking into switching to Linux for a work machine (I’ll keep my MacBook and iPad and iPhone for non-critical and on-the-go stuff).</p>
<p>I’ll do some reading of earlier posts in this thread but does anyone have any recommendations for decent Linux desktop PC suppliers in the UK or who will ship to the UK? Since this will be for coding I don’t need a massively powerful graphics card but I do want to have two external displays (with the option of a third). Everything else would be pretty standard spec-wise I imagine… things like 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD and an 8 or 12 core processor.</p> 
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								<p>Hi,<br>
Any windows compatible pc should work on Linux. A good video to watch is this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdoys_HDZYU" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdoys_HDZYU</a>.</p>
<p>So you don’t need a specific workstation you can build one from scratch and customize to your needs</p>
<p>This questions will help me and others to offer solutions to your problem.</p>
<p>Iwould go with an amd processor  <a href="https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen</a></p> 
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								<p>Should probably be in a MacOS thread if something like that exists…</p>
<p>But I have had a terrible experience with Catalina as well so far. Whenever waking my iMac from sleep, it crashes multiple apps and eventually everything, because I can still use my mouse to move the cursor, but all the OS specific stuff shows me the beach ball.</p>
<p>I have been searching for this issue on the internet for the last 6 weeks, couldn’t find anything related.</p>
<p>EDIT: And this is not about running MacOS on a none-apple machine, it is an iMac. Apple support tells me it must be something I installed outside of their scope. Since I have not found many complaints about this issue I concur, but what the hell is it!? I have not pirated anything, I have not installed any strange applications I am aware off, I have not even watched porn on that specific machine… So what is it! Apple, please fix…</p> 
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								<p>Thanks for the links. I built a PC way back around 1995 I think. I remember having to upgrade the BIOS for it to recognise a 1GB (yes, GB) hard drive.</p> 
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								<p>Have you both tried doing a clean install? <a href="https://astonj.com/clean-macos-install-without-migration-assistant/" class="inline-onebox" rel="nofollow">Clean macOS install – without Migration Assistant! – (via @AstonJ)</a></p>
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								<p>I don’t want to hijack this thread either. I can add a new administrative account to my iMac (which is six months old) and it seems to behave but doing a clean install and installing a few basic applications caused crashes again. Whether or not it is fixed, my main issue is that macOS feels almost as bad as Windows was when I abandoned that and if I don’t need it for work any more (I used to develop Mac software) then I could switch to something more stable and less restrictive for work things.</p> 
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<p>I did and after installing a few things it started crashing. However, before I’d installed anything I opened the Mac App Store to install things and had weird screen drawing issues going on which didn’t instil confidence. I think that the Radeon video drivers have issues.</p> 
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								<p>How old is your Mac Simon?</p>
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								<p>It’s a six-month old, pretty much top of the range iMac.</p>
<p>I know that Apple will fix the issues eventually but the 10.15.3 beta 1 didn’t do it so I’m not holding my breath.</p>
<p>I will keep the iMac and use it as a single screen computer on my desk for non-coding things (watching videos, photos, etc.) but a separate work machine is just very appealing at the moment.</p> 
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								<p>Upgrading the biso on a new generation of motherboards is straight forward and it also can be done using the tools supplied by the motherboard manufacturer.</p>
<p>So for example Gigabyte has is’ own app that searches automatically for new bios updates.</p>
<p>So if you will head down this path this process has become a lot easier and simpler to solve.</p> 
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