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								<p>Linux is for users that want to see what is under the hood and also is very customizable. You can even build your own linux from scratch.</p>
<p>Thanks to <a class="mention" href="/u/overminddl1" rel="nofollow">@OvermindDL1</a> in another topic we discussed a problem of mine. Regarding Linux performance, i ended up using a KDE based Ubuntu known as KUBUNTU , which uses very little memory and is user friendly.</p>
<p>Also if anyone has any questions regarding this you can pm me or we can create another topic to discuss this.</p> 
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<p>My wife, many friends in real life, all are heavy gamers.  They like Linux because the games run faster and they just don’t have any issues, ever.  I’m “on call” for them if they need help but so far they never have, and they’ve discovered a lot on their own that they like to show off to me.  They don’t dev, don’t program, aren’t IT by any stretch.  They all use Kubuntu.</p>
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<p>Oh hey!  Is that working well for you then?  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slightly_smiling_face.png?v=15" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" class="emoji" alt=":slightly_smiling_face:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>Well it’s a lot to talk about if you like we can create another topic. Where i can describe the experience and also run some tests for comparison against my old Bodhi Linux.</p>
<p>Would you like that?</p> 
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<p>At your encouragement and with your support no doubt.</p>
<p>Most people just stick to what the vendor hands them and/or what they can find support with from their peer group - which in most cases is Windows. Few people are fortunate enough to have somebody like you around to help them explore alternatives (apart from the <em>it’s just too much like work</em> aspect).</p>
<p>Apparently just installing a <a href="https://youtu.be/fxbCHn6gE3U?t=592" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">different browser on one’s OS qualifies as a remarkable action</a>.</p> 
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<p>It could be due to an absence of documentation. In this thread, there is valuable content that could be added to the official documentation.</p>
<p>Nowadays, anyone can use Linux. Example: Dell XPS 13 (Ubuntu 18.04 LTS preloaded).<br>
SUSE, Mandrake (Mandriva), Canonical, Red Hat … did a good job.</p> 
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								<p>Started using a Windows machine for my elixir development a couple weeks ago and so far the experience has been surprisingly good.</p>
<p>My <strong>first test was just the elixir installer for Windows</strong>, made a small example project with Phoenix and had no mayor issues. My “biggest” issue at this stage was just the lack of mix auto completion at the command line.</p>
<p>I <strong>tried a connection to MS SQL with Ecto</strong> and was able to retrieve and insert data (with some caveats), definitely less troublesome than I expected it to be… but the problems here have more to do with available Ecto adapters.</p>
<p>Missing the terminal coloring I <strong>gave a shot to Windows Subsystem for Linux</strong>… one or two commands and I already had ubuntu on windows. After that installation with <code>asdf</code> was no issue.</p>
<p><strong>Tried to install VS Code on WSL</strong> but I had trouble selecting the right display, this ubuntu distro is not graphical so I settled for vim for a while… until the instance of <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/wsl" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">VS Code on my windows machine gave me a plugin hint</a>. So, if you’re fine settling for VS Code as an elixir editor it has been doing wonders on my case.</p>
<p>Just to not discard the option I also <strong>gave  a shot to Postgress on Windows</strong>, the <a href="https://www.postgresql.org/download/windows/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">available installers</a> worked super smoothly and was able to get an instance running with 0 effort. On ubuntu I always struggle with the available packages or docker configurations (I have to go back on “how to setup”).</p>
<p>Creating a small Ecto app (on ubuntu) that connects to the windows Postgress instance was effortless, the connection string seems to be shared between Operating Systems.</p>
<p>All of this within a span of 3 days… neat! <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Haven’t tried releases but right now I’m super optimistic that deployment on an Windows Server will be successful. Also, I’m super happy with my current working environment <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/star2.png?v=15" title=":star2:" class="emoji" alt=":star2:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>Thanks for the tip! Will definitely give it a shot in the upcoming days.</p>
<p>My main concern is that I’m using VS Code + ElixirLS which can be quite a burden for slower machines, thankfully I was lent a very beefy machine so no issues or perceived “lag” while editing code.</p> 
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								<p>Even as a very raw beginner, I never had problems with PHP, Python, Java or Flash on Windows. Ruby was a problem and enough of a headache that I didn’t really come back to programming until 2 years later and much longer than that for Ruby itself.</p>
<p>That’s why I was pretty dismayed at the Windows experience with Elixir (the ecosystem, not the language itself) back in 2016 and trying to document and draw attention to all the hurdles.</p>
<p>Obviously people building open source can use any OS they want. I was just dismayed at the likely effects on <em>adoption</em> of Elixir.</p> 
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								<p>I tried installing Elixir on Windows this past week and got frustrated installing all the tooling needed for a phoenix app (node especially). I came across this thread and Scott Hanselman’s post on WSL and tried to document my steps. Its so much nicer than setting things up in Windows. Hope it helps someone!</p>
<p><a href="https://aaronwestbrook.com/installing-elixir-on-windows-with-wsl-2/" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://aaronwestbrook.com/installing-elixir-on-windows-with-wsl-2/</a></p>
<p>Also let me know if I forgot any steps!</p> 
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