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<p>Nix allows me to version way more things than just runtimes/compilers. Additionally this completely prevents me from Erlang/Elixir version mismatch. I use Nix also as my system package manager, so it is like Homebrew and ASDF in one package. Also the idea that I do not need to have packages available globally and instead have them per-environment is very useful.</p>
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<p>You can version everything, DB, ElixirLS, Vim, OpenSSL, etc.</p>
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<p>No, as Nix is whole functional programming language that is used to define working environment, so this is way harder to grasp and understand, but on the other hand it gives you enormous power as it can be used to:</p>
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<li>define work environment</li>
<li>define CI environment</li>
<li>configure deployment builds</li>
<li>provide “simple” definition for others to run your application (for example if this is FLOSS or you need non-Elixir people to run it locally because they are for example mobile developers)</li>
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<p>The last one is interesting, because imagine that you have your release defined in <code>default.nix</code> in your repo, so the user on the other end can do (IIRC, I am on my phone so it can differ a little):</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="nix"><code class="lang-nix">let
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<p>And they will have access your application via simple <code>my_app start</code> in their shell (if the derivation is properly written). So this provides way more possibilities than ASDF.</p> 
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<p>The <a href="https://github.com/gleam-lang/setup-gleam" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">GitHub Action for Gleam</a> uses asdf to set up the Gleam compiler for use in CI pipelines <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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								<p>This thread has reminded me how useful <a class="hashtag-cooked" href="/tag/polls/200" data-type="tag" data-slug="polls" data-id="200" data-style-type="icon" data-icon="tag" rel="nofollow"><span class="hashtag-icon-placeholder"><svg class="fa d-icon d-icon-square-full svg-icon svg-node"><use href="#square-full"></use></svg></span><span>polls</span></a> are on a forum. Not only can you quickly get a sense of that particular topic by looking at the poll results, but being able to discuss and seek clarification in the thread itself is incredibly useful.</p>
<p>Let’s try something new - whenever we post a poll on an important topic such as this one we’ll also pin it for a week. If that ends up being useful we’ll go through each of our polls on an annual basis and pin them for a week too, perhaps renewing them (with a new thread) every 3 to 5 years (depending whether there are new options available, etc).</p> 
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								<p>I’m using it for all I can locally, but on production servers I stick with Erlang-solutions repo for Erlang/Elixir - benefits of switching version on production are doubtful, and besides that asdf only adds time to compile Erlang and hassle around users directories (afaik asdf can’t install packages globally) <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Why not distribute ERTS with the release? This is safer and default solution in <code>mix release</code> and Distillery.</p> 
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								<p>that’s the case with properly pipelined deployments, I was talking about CI-less ones (I have both sorts of productions, and with CI-packaged deployments shipped to k8s of course I don’t use esl repos, but that was out of the question I guess) <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Elixir, Erlang, Ruby, Node – <code>asdf</code>.<br>
Java – <code>jenv</code>.</p>
<p>Haven’t tried switching versions of Go and Rust because their updates are 99% of the time of high quality. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> And I prefer to always be on the latest stable version.</p>
<p>OCaml has <code>opam</code> which works very well. I just wish it was less tedious to use, it’s like they are afraid to introduce any convenience and you end up executing 2-4 commands for stuff that should really take one (like have separate environment for every app you are working on; that takes some doing but I’ll hand it to them that it’s possible and works very well!)</p> 
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								<p>asdf also for python, works great.</p> 
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