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								<p>I was being tactful and considerate <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"><br>
I would have used much different words for a 55 Euro course with a misleading title and 5 minute long clips of concepts that need hours of explanation each.<br>
The jump from OO to Elixir is not a 5 minutes ride and if you are able to do it, then you are most certainly not a beginner.<br>
I can’t believe you’re defending this, but that’s not my problem <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"><br>
I have stated my honest opinion as tactful as I possibly could, after having paid, multiple times, for similar “courses” and “books”.</p> 
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<p>I understand your frustration but I’m sure you’d agree that it’s not fair to take it all out on one person.</p>
<p>I think your review was a bit harsh if I’m honest.</p>
<p>Terms like “<em>IT’S A SCAM</em>” and discouraging remarks like “<em>Please, if you’re an experienced developer, that’s wonderful, good for you, but that DOES NOT, DOES NOT, make you a teacher</em>” are just unnecessary and unhelpful. It’s like you’ve written this person and the course off completely and turned off a whole generation of screencasters with one blow.</p>
<p>I think it’s better to encourage people to make more learning material - it is crucial to passing on knowledge. Some are more experienced than others but everyone has to start somewhere. Who knows, the author of this course may one day be the Ryan Bates of the Elixir world.</p>
<p>We could certainly do with one (or two!) <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/425cf8a2af1868cc834c0a12b6f0c9ef0e530de9.gif?v=15" title=":icon_biggrin:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":icon_biggrin:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>I think deep down, and perhaps in hindsight, you probably agree with me anyway <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Of course I agree, I’m not a monster <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"><br>
But it really is a re-occurring pattern.<br>
I have no problem paying for these courses, but imagine some poor guy or gal in an underdeveloped country, with glowing big eyes, ready to learn, stumbling on something that’s not as good as it could be.<br>
For people who are already programmers 55 Euro is nothing, 55 Euro, however, for people in less developed countries is possibly months of saving, and than that person needs to save another couple of months until they can afford another source of information.<br>
Not to mention they will feel stupid for not understanding a thing.<br>
I don’t want to discourage people from making learning materials, but I really wish that programmers start using the number of satisfied students they’ve had instead of how many years of programming they have under their belt, otherwise it feels just like a big Trump University. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Udemy has a 28 day money-back guarantee <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I found the content to be more than acceptable.  There needs to be far more such content as all the YouTube videos on Elixir/Phoenix are currently nothing more than high level marketing fluff.  This does absolutely nothing to get newbies started.</p>
<p>The only issue I have with the course is that the 2.5 hrs was broken up into 5-10 minute bites.  This makes it rather frustrating.  Would much prefer to digest it in one long video.</p>
<p><a class="mention" href="/u/deithrian" rel="nofollow">@Deithrian</a> - Since you appear to have so many problems with the free course and claim to know how to do it properly… we’ll be waiting for your content.  When can we expect it?</p> 
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								<p>I liked this udemy course coz I was able to learn from it and I think that is what matters for me. Of course there are some things that are introduced in a shallow manner and I think it has it’s advantage coz it avoids overloading me with unnecessary concepts on the initial journey. The video helped me crave for more. Each one has a different learning style. This one though not the most ideal for me has been beneficial coz I learned and encouraged me to look for more. Besides this has been given free even for a limited time only. Thanks to the persons who made this possible. Peace everyone.</p> 
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<p>Neither were many other great screen casters/teachers <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>You already have one advantage, you have a critical eye and a ‘high standard’. If it interests you, I’d say give it a go… you never know where it might lead <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Dude, teaching is a huge responsibility.<br>
People entrust you with their time and money, you must provide results for them.<br>
This means devotion.<br>
Devotion means getting experience.<br>
Getting experience means spending a lot of time, a lot of time, on preparing material, finding people to review it, rinse and repeat.<br>
After two, maybe three years, I “guess”, a responsible person can gain confidence and publish something. And that’s experience in “Transferring knowledge to other human beings”, not “Recording videos on the weekends with OBS, talking to a webcam reading documents, and oh I forgot to change the size of my Font, can everyone see this?!”.<br>
I have a day job, in my spare time I’m learning programming, it’s absolutely impossible to also try and become a teacher.</p>
<p>When you visit a restaurant and order chicken soup from the menu, but they bring you a bowl of water with lemons, as a customer, you have the right to complain.<br>
Just because you have complained, it doesn’t mean that you must open a restaurant and start cooking soup yourself.<br>
That’s why you went to the restaurant in the first place.<br>
The “open your own restaurant and become a cook” is the Linux community response to “my drivers are not working”.</p>
<p>Udemy is a restaurant. The author of this course is the cook. His soup is water with lemons in my opinion. I complained. I think this is reasonable. I also didn’t intend to harm the author of this course and did not post a review on Udemy, and will not do so.</p>
<p>Teaching is not a hobby, people’s time and money are not a Saturday joke to tell to friends.<br>
I’ve been to the Ruby, C#, Java, Python, PHP, Go, Dart, JS(eww), Autodesk Maya, Photoshop,  CorelDraw, Audio &amp; Video editing, PC Technician, restaurants  and have eaten a lot of soups. I know damn well what chicken soup tastes like and what water with lemons tastes like.<br>
For example, in the 3D world, you don’t go to the Digital Toutor’s restaurant, you go to The Gnomon Workshop’s restaurant, there be epic win chicken soup there. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/grin.png?v=15" title=":grin:" class="emoji" alt=":grin:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I fear in your world we wouldn’t have seen brilliant screencasters like Ryan Bates - the guy’s a legend <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>I get what you’re saying when money is involved though (but nobody’s at risk with this Udemy course - they have 28 days to get a refund).</p> 
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