<turbo-stream action="append" target="posts_list"><template>    <div class="postbit" id="167885" data-post-id="167885">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="AstonJ" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/AstonJ/120/15_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  AstonJ
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<aside class="quote no-group" data-username="alice" data-post="1" data-topic="29973">
<div class="title">
<div class="quote-controls"></div>
<img alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/779978/48.png" class="avatar"> alice:</div>
<blockquote>
<p>I’ve listened to a couple tech talks explaining how Ruby was super slow prior to Rails and I am wondering, if Elixir’s syntax is partially inspired from Ruby, how come Elixir is fast? Thanks.</p>
</blockquote>
</aside>
<p>Looks can be deceptive <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>You could say Elixir inherited it’s mother’s (Ruby’s!) good looks, but has the mindset of its father (Erlang!) <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p><em>A bit like me actually …just kidding <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/35766b1a01a84df440f412d59b52c782808258f0.gif?v=15" title=":043:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":043:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></em></p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167885" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        7
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/12">Post #11</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167885" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167885"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #11"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="167907" data-post-id="167907">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="lpil" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/lpil/120/17492_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  lpil
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
			          <div class="user-title">
									<span>Creator of Gleam</span>
			          </div>
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<p>Honestly I’d say Elixir inherited more from Clojure than Ruby!</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167907" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        5
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/13">Post #12</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167907" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167907"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #12"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="167909" data-post-id="167909">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="sribe" src="/assets/icons/user-9f439610.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  sribe
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<p>Had Elixir not been invented, I’d probably be using Clojure…</p>
<p>[EDIT] and I mean I’d be happy doing so</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167909" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        1
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/14">Post #13</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167909" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167909"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #13"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="167912" data-post-id="167912">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="AstonJ" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/AstonJ/120/15_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  AstonJ
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<p>I haven’t looked at Clojure for a while …does it use <code>def</code> <code>ends</code>?</p>
<p>I think that’s why many people feel Elixir resembles Ruby because on the face of it, without digging deeper, it looks like Ruby the most. Similarly, Phoenix feels quite a lot like Rails in many ways too.</p>
<p>Whether intentional or not, I personally think it was a great move - Ruby and Rails have a very strong following precisely because of these ‘shared’ features/appearance <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167912" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        0
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/15">Post #14</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167912" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167912"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #14"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="167913" data-post-id="167913">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="NobbZ" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/NobbZ/120/27235_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  NobbZ
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<aside class="quote no-group" data-username="AstonJ" data-post="15" data-topic="29973">
<div class="title">
<div class="quote-controls"></div>
<img alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/astonj/48/15_2.png" class="avatar"> AstonJ:</div>
<blockquote>
<p>does it use <code>def</code> <code>ends</code> ?</p>
</blockquote>
</aside>
<p>Clojure is a lisp dialect and therefore just uses parentheses.</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167913" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        2
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/16">Post #15</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167913" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167913"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #15"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="167914" data-post-id="167914">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="lpil" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/lpil/120/17492_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  lpil
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
			          <div class="user-title">
									<span>Creator of Gleam</span>
			          </div>
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<aside class="quote no-group" data-username="AstonJ" data-post="15" data-topic="29973">
<div class="title">
<div class="quote-controls"></div>
<img alt="" width="24" height="24" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/astonj/48/15_2.png" class="avatar"> AstonJ:</div>
<blockquote>
<p>I haven’t looked at Clojure for a while …does it use <code>def</code> <code>ends</code> ?</p>
</blockquote>
</aside>
<p>It’s a Lisp, so very different syntax. The semantics and tooling of the languages are similar in many ways though</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167914" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        2
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/17">Post #16</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167914" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167914"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #16"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="167931" data-post-id="167931">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="jeremyjh" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/jeremyjh/120/5995_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  jeremyjh
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<p>Elixir is what you get if Erlang, Ruby and Clojure had a baby and it <em>wasn’t</em> a mistake.</p>
<p>To be more specific in Elixir we have Erlang semantics, Ruby syntax and Clojure’s macros and protocols.</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="167931" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        8
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/18">Post #17</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-167931" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="167931"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #17"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="168037" data-post-id="168037">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="lpil" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/lpil/120/17492_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  lpil
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
			          <div class="user-title">
									<span>Creator of Gleam</span>
			          </div>
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<blockquote>
<p>You are right. Crystal is the better option if we want speed</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This somewhat depends on what the workload is. For IO bound tasks I would bet the BEAM can perform better as Crystal’s concurrency features and garbage collection are not quite as mature, and they don’t yet have parallelism.</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="168037" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        1
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/20">Post #19</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-168037" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="168037"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #19"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="168049" data-post-id="168049">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="AstonJ" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/AstonJ/120/15_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  AstonJ
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<p>Sorry Louis the post you were replying to got deleted - there was a post in the review queue that looked like spam and the user’s IP was different to the location set in their profile (classic spam pattern) so I rejected post and chose the delete account option, which would result in any other posts they made being deleted as well if below a certain threshold. I hope they weren’t a genuine user! <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8aa2b2d8a8f5cfcd5648f8d158ddf6835c8bcd49.gif?v=15" title=":icon_redface:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":icon_redface:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>I’ve added their post into yours as a quote though, but can remove your post as well if you would prefer.</p>
<p>(If the deleted user is reading this and you are in fact not a spammer, please email us to get you set back up - sorry for the inconvenience!)</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="168049" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        1
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/21">Post #20</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-168049" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="168049"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #20"></div>
  </section>
</div>
    <div class="postbit" id="168289" data-post-id="168289">
  <section>
    <div class="post-wrap">


					<div class="post-header">
		        <div class="user-avatar">
		          <img alt="RobertDober" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/user_avatar/forum.elixirforum.com/RobertDober/120/4842_2.png" width="120" height="120" />
		        </div>
					
						<div class="user-details">
		          <div class="user-name">
		            <h3>
                  RobertDober
                  </h3>
		          </div>
						
						</div>
					
					</div>

	        <div class="thread-main">
	            <div class="post-body" data-turbo="false">
								<p>Strangly enough working with Ruby on my daytime job and Elixir whenever I can, I feel less and less that their syntaxes are similar, anyone else having the same kind of experience?</p> 
	            </div>

	            <div class="base-line">
	                <div class="thread-counters">
	                    <span class="thread-count count-likes js-likers-trigger" title="Likes" data-post-id="168289" data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                        2
                      </span>
                      <!-- <span class="thread-count js-solved-indicator" title="Marked as solution"></span> -->
	                </div>
	                <div class="go-to-post">
	                  <a title="Go to post" alt="Go to post" href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/if-ruby-has-really-slow-performance-how-come-elixir-is-fast/29973/22">Post #21</a>
	                </div>
	            </div>
              <div id="likers-container-168289" 
                   class="likers-container"
                   data-first-post="false"
                   data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                   <div class="likers-placeholder" 
                     data-likers-post-id="168289"
                     data-batch-url="/posts/batch_likers">
                  <div class="post-likers"></div>
                </div>
              </div>
	        </div>
			

    </div>

    <div class="triangle-top-right type-standard-post cat-standard-post" title="Post #21"></div>
  </section>
</div>
</template></turbo-stream><turbo-stream action="replace" target="load-more-container"><template><div id="load-more-container" class="load-more-container">
    <a class="load-more-button" data-turbo-stream="true" href="/topics/29973/load_more?page=3">Load more posts (6 remaining)</a>
</div></template></turbo-stream>