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<p>Right, so why would those big tech companies invest so much money in something that has been solved since the 80s?</p>
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<p>Well also don’t forget that Sun literally spent billions of dollars marketing Java, which overshadowed any technical advantage that erlang could have brought to the scene in the 90s.  Google was originally a Java shop, and kubernetes, while written in go, is built on top of java technology (<a href="https://youtu.be/4VNDjwzzKPo" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/4VNDjwzzKPo</a>), and even if it weren’t, cargo culting google is totally a thing in tech.</p> 
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<p>People really forgot about that. That is the reason why we have <strong>Java</strong>Script instead of ECMAScript.</p> 
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<p>Only if they were already involved with programming at that time. I guess there are many people, which started their careers well after that time.</p> 
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								<p>I’ve heard from different sources that half the programmers today has less than 5 years of experience. So yes, that’s highly probable.</p> 
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								<p>Sure, but if you’ve already accepted WASM into your heart, why limit oneself to BEAM languages? Functions-as-a-service approaches in particular generally don’t need things like supervisor hierarchies or strong concurrency that are the differentiators of the languages/runtime - they just need to be fast, correct, and productive.</p> 
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								<p>You are prpbably right. Especially with current solutions.</p>
<p>So mostly because I enjoy working with BEAM languages. I’m also not certain that cloud functions don’t benefit from concurrency. And I don’t think we necessarily know what we want out on the “edge” yet. And I’m curious to see what Lumen can achieve there <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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