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								<p>Until yesterday I used my aged Logitech G19, first generation (and as it is still a good keyboard, I’ll replace my cherry in the office with it).</p>
<p>But my co workers gave me yesterday a Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum as a birthday present.</p>
<p>I can type on it very well, still, it feels as if I had to relearn typing, as keypositions and their touch are slightly different than on the old one.</p>
<p>If it were me, I hadn’t bought a new keyboard yet, because I usually insist on testing a keyboard first and most keyboards (especially mechanic ones) either need to much force when hitting the keys, or they are much to loud. The G910 was a blind buy by my coworkers as they knew I was happy with my G19 and they hoped, that I will be with its successor as well.</p>
<p>So far they are right <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>They allow you to type with less wrist/forearm rotation, which helps with the source of some of the most common RSI issues. (The most neutral position for your hands is parallel to your body.)</p>
<p><strong>However</strong>, they also require more extension/flexion movement in the fingers reaching from row to row, which exacerbates some RSI issues–I can’t stand using one for very long because of that.</p>
<p>There are 3 factors that can help with RSI:</p>
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<p>Which brings me to <a href="https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">my keyboard</a> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>They allow you to type with less wrist/forearm rotation, which helps with the source of some of the most common RSI issues. (The most neutral position for your hands is parallel to your body.)</p>
<p><strong>However</strong> , they also require more extension/flexion movement in the fingers reaching from row to row, which exacerbates some RSI issues–I can’t stand using one for very long because of that.</p>
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<p>Hmm, interesting, so it’s a "test to see if it works’ kind of thing.</p>
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<p>Which brings me to <a href="https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">my keyboard </a> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Wow, quite a unique design there!</p> 
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								<p>I think Chris has one too <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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    +1 to the Kinesis Advantage. It saved my wrists. Phoenix may not exist without it <img width="20" height="20" src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title="slight_smile" alt="slight_smile" class="emoji"> 
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								<p>After trying out Razer and a few Chinese keyboards (which were surprisingly good mechanical AND waterproof pieces of hardware!), I finally settled for <a href="https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/product/g610-orion-brown-keyboard" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Logitech G600 Orion Brown</a>. Why:</p>
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<li>Brown switches are the quietest among all mechanicals.</li>
<li>Good, neutral lighting, only one color (white), and enough brightness settings to make it good for any lighting around you.</li>
<li>Logitech’s software is pretty good and allows for customization and macros (which I did not ever need).</li>
<li>Hardware volume roller! I did not know how much I needed that until I had it.</li>
<li>Gaming lock key (disables the Windows key, and optionally Alt-Tab). I was cringing at that at first but now use it almost any time I game.</li>
<li>Splash-resistant. Not entirely waterproof like the blue Cherry MX switch Chinese keyboards I used but I didn’t need to swap it out when spilling some water or a drink on it.</li>
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<p>The keyboard is simple, non-pretentious, and gets the job done surprisingly well. Ever since I had it I feel one with my PC. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Only downside: key caps pop out easily. I dropped it lately and had to put back at least 10 key caps. But this as an advantage as well: the keyboard is VERY easy to clean.</p>
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<p>Why I gave up on Razer:</p>
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<li>Switches are not that durable. Had two high-end Razer keyboards, both started to have keys failing around the 13-14 month mark.</li>
<li>Not even splash resistant. Spilling a small amount of water meant I had to swap it out for a spare, for no less than 6 hours.</li>
<li>Harder to clean than most keyboards I had.</li>
<li>Heavy. Not that this is a big concern but the bulkiness and heavy weight did not help it in being durable so I guess it was just a marketing stunt to make people feel like the product is durable while it clearly is not.</li>
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<p>Why I gave up on Chinese blue Cherry switch keyboards:</p>
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<li>Lights started failing quickly (6-7 months).</li>
<li>Blue Cherry switches are loud as hell.</li>
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<p>…And that’s it. If I was into Blue Cherry and if I did not care about 2-3 keys having a dimmer light, they would be the PERFECT keyboards. Costed something like $60 and I was literally pouring water on them and they kept working. Dropped both at least 5 times each, zero keys fell off. It felt like you could murder someone with those things and then still keep working with them. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>No backlight, no buy. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/frowning.png?v=15" title=":frowning:" class="emoji" alt=":frowning:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I work mostly the nights so there’s that.</p> 
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								<p>I use this: <a href="https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071K1Z1Y9" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">HyperX Alloy Elite</a></p>
<p>With the MX Cherry Blues and I love it. I recently split an entire coffee and it was fine after some cleaning.</p> 
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<p>Yeah, definitively this! This is the main reason why I replace the cherry-keyboard in the office with my G19.</p>
<p>I need the constant glow at the rim of my eyes to be able to find the keyboard at all, even during daylight. I have constantly to look down if the keyboard has no backlight, checking that it is still there.</p>
<p>This is not only a criteria when I choose a keyboard, but for laptops as well, I wouldn’t buy one, that is missing keyboard backlight, even if it were a i9 with 30ish cores and 3-digits of RAM… No light, no buy…</p> 
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								<p>I use a ducky shine 4 with MX brown switches, but plan on getting one of those 65% keyboards <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>On another note, backlight is really cool and all, but don’t code in complete darkness. Take care of your eyes <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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