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<p>Not sure, they are just praised a lot, and by conservative programmers no less. So in my eyes they are worth the inclusion.</p>
<p>I would get a customizable WASD keyboard for sure. I am still pondering if I should try them before some of mine break.</p> 
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								<p>Do it and let me know what you think <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Do you get stung by high delivery costs and taxes there too? It practically doubles the price if I order for delivery here (inc customs taxes).</p> 
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								<p>Yes to both but I have accepted it as a fact of life, especially with me being in Eastern Europe. I just calculate a double price the moment I see the original one and evaluate <em>that</em>. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Apple stopped making the wired keyboard? I love those. I have an extra that I need to do a better job of storing now that I know that.</p> 
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								<p>A few years ago I think - it’s why I ended up with one of their wireless ones. Part of the reason I didn’t mind giving it a go was because it was similarly sized to the keyboard on my MBA - so I thought it would make life easier switching from one to another, but the wireless keyboard feels a lot more cramped and is ‘stiffer’.</p> 
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<p>That’s why I hate them. Apple does a lot of things right but keyboards are definitely not one of these things.</p>
<p>I am very hopeful that now with the <a href="https://www.howtogeek.com/339502/low-profile-switches-are-coming-to-shrink-your-mechanical-keyboards/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">innovation of thinner mechanical switches</a> the laptop OEMs, Apple included, will jump ship to them and stop sacrificing ergonomy for another 0.1mm shaved off the thickness of the device. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/frowning.png?v=15" title=":frowning:" class="emoji" alt=":frowning:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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								<p>What about this one, but personally I don;'t like this one control</p><div class="youtube-onebox lazy-video-container" data-video-id="w6YLj12s1e4" data-video-title="This Dial Controls Everything! -- Logitech Craft Keyboard" data-video-start-time="" data-provider-name="youtube">
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								<p>I use a <a href="https://www.originativeco.com/products/saber-68" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Saber68</a> for my daily work. I got the Mod-M switches. I have been using that keyboard for more than a year and I highly recommend it.</p>
<p>…and I recently ordered a <a href="http://www.breadbox64.com/blog/the-mechboard64/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">MechBoard64</a> with yellow switches. Should arrive in a couple of weeks.</p> 
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								<p>I’ve never used a mechanical keyboard, so I get that there may be things I just don’t understand about the appeal. The keyboard I’m on now was purchased exactly because it is very quiet and is almost perfectly the size of a laptop keyboard, which is where I do most of my typing and all of my development. I guess my biggest question is what aspect of feedback is the keyboard giving that is gained just by looking at the screen and seeing the result? Or is this really something that I won’t be able to appreciate without using one for a fairly extended amount of time?</p> 
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