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								<p>You guys should record a video chat on the subject <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I bet it would be fun to watch</p> 
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<p>If GC, then OCaml’s GC being generic (though not <em>as</em> generic as Java and .NET’s) means that it cannot make a lot of assumptions that, say, the BEAM GC can, such as it cannot assume that older things do not reference newer things, where that is impossible on the BEAM (which saves a surprising amount of tracing time right there).</p>
<p>The downside of static typing means you have to make certain allowances if you allow hot-code loading.  ^.^;</p>
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<p>Really?!  Oh what was it called… ppx_lwt, that’s it!<br>
It’s primarily used for async work, but it actually supports more (and other similar ones).</p> 
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It’s primarily used for async work, but it actually supports more (and other similar ones).</p>
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<p>Thanks a lot.</p>
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<p>I honestly don’t think a lot of things many consider as ‘syntax issues’ are actual syntax issues.  OCaml’s syntax is carefully picked to be entirely unambiguous, safe, and concise while remaining readable, and I think it succeeds in that.  ReasonML ‘so far’ just seems to add a lot of fluff that does not bring much of anything to the language as of yet.</p> 
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								<p>I guess your coding style differs much from Yaron`s which explains that difference in the experience.<br>
You might run less into issues, which he faces quite regular. Otherwise, I cant explain that difference to myself. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I doubt that that’s a personal assessment from Minsky. He regularly deals with people who don’t know OCaml but have to deal with their code base and in some cases they’re not even programmers. I’m sure he’s picked up what people find most confusing about OCaml from exposure to peoples’ struggles and speaks from that position.</p> 
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