Cmon but the cloud is magic it never goes down 
and it’s really cool idea to have your deployment pipeline depend on TravisCI or CircleCI and as many of other possible external providers as possible ideally tied to the same cloud (dockerhub at least). Oh and don’t forget to host your service status page on the same provider customers will really appreciate it. When choosing cloud provider ideally choose the one where it takes manual approval at CEO level to update the service status page to make sure you have a very fun time explaining to customers why you are down while AWS is showing all green.
andre1sk
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gon782
There are deployments that you, as a single person, could not manage to do yourself at all if you didn’t have something like AWS, guaranteed.
The alternative, then, is to establish a whole team to manage those things. At that point, you end up spending more money on manpower than you would’ve on the servers, likely.
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andre1sk
Could you provide an example outside of something heavily regulated like PCI-DSS or HIPPA where it would be the case?
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gon782
OvermindDL1
You’d be surprised at what I’ve managed over 30 years. 
I really am curious about a specific use-case though, I really have not yet seen such a use-case that could not be done manually within a few days at most unless you really really really needed it done ‘now’, and I could probably still hack something together (as long as it is not one of those 48 hours Microsoft-crap installs, yes I’ve experienced that…).
And I’ve not really messed with PCI-DSS but I have worked with HIPPA twice, including my current job (hence why I can never show my project publicly much as I would like to show it off as an example on how to do a few specific things…).
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CharlesO
@OvermindDL1 +1
I’m all for running own hosted servers
There are so many cheap hosted (virtual / bare metal) servers out there.
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AstonJ
I know the cloud like AWS has rendered them pretty much obsolete now, but anyone remember in the old days we’d have mirrors 
I don’t mind hosting a mirror of the docs if it would be helpful? Could set up a daily or weekly cron to pick up a fresh copy..
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hassan
Such as? I’ve not seen something that AWS can do that I cannot very easily do myself…
Duplicate the distributed access management abilities of AWS VPCs,
Security Groups, ACLs and IAM (and compute services that use those).
No rush
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andre1sk
You do realise that people have being doing this for ages and amazon is just matching what people have being doing on their private networks and offering it as an option? AWS is black box that you have 0 visibility into, they have single tenant that can literally screw all other tenants when it has issues (Netflix) and yes it has happened before. So outside of some very specific use cases AWS is a horrible idea
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hassan
You do realise that people have being doing this for ages and amazon is just
matching what people have being doing on their private networks and offering
it as an option?
You do realize I have no interest in re-inventing AND maintaining
AND documenting that wheel? Maybe it’s different if programming
is just a hobby for you, but no thanks.
So outside of some very specific use cases AWS is a horrible idea
I’d reverse that, if you’re actually running a business.
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