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								<p>which version of Phoenix does this course target?</p> 
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								<p>Most of the course is involved with building a custom web application that, in broad outline, clearly draws inspiration from Phoenix, but the course focuses on the fundamentals of Elixir.  Where Phoenix is touched upon (close to the 2/3 point in the course) it uses Phoenix 1.3.  But really, there is NOT a lot of Phoenix content here.</p> 
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<p>Do you recommend this course for someone whose goal is to create Phoenix web applications? Or do you recommend <strong>Elixir for programmers</strong> by Dave Thomas more, or both the courses?</p> 
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								<p>In my opinion, both courses offer a good introduction to Elixir and OTP.  I don’t believe that either of them particularly focuses on Phoenix.</p>
<p>The Pragmatic Studio course (in an roundabout way) offers a good glimpse of how Phoenix is built, but will not give you much practical experience applying Phoenix itself.</p>
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<p>Did you actually take both of these courses, or assumed that like me (as a free member or visitor), from the table of contents?</p>
<p>BTW I will recommend Phoenix inside out (which I’m really currently) for anyone who wants to learn Phoenix.</p> 
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								<p>I took both, and both take Phoenix as an implementation detail… First they build engine, then they use text_client, then they use Phoenix.</p>
<p>As the Pragmatic Studio course is not yet finished, You may have more Phoenix… but I think the rest will be on Elm.</p>
<p>I think they want to emphasize that Phoenix is not your application.</p>
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								<p><a class="mention" href="/u/kokolegorille" rel="nofollow">@kokolegorille</a> I believe you may be confusing two of the Pragmatic Studio courses.</p>
<p>You have described the <strong>Unpacked: Multi-Player Bingo</strong> class which is in progress.  The topic of this  channel is the <strong>Developing With Elixir/OTP</strong> class which is complete.  I had assumed that the <strong>Developing With Elixir/OTP</strong> class was what <a class="mention" href="/u/asfand" rel="nofollow">@asfand</a> was asking about and is the course that I was comparing to Dave Thomas’ <strong>Elixir for programmers</strong> course.</p>
<p>As you point out, the <strong>Unpacked: Multi-Player Bingo</strong> is very much like the <strong>Elixir for programmers</strong>  course in outline (though <strong>Elixir for programmers</strong> goes into more detail about the underlying language).   Both are similar to the book from the Pragmatic Programmers called <a href="https://pragprog.com/book/lhelph/functional-web-development-with-elixir-otp-and-phoenix" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Functional Web Development with Elixir, OTP, and Phoenix</a>.</p> 
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								<p>Oh yes, sorry… I did not take Developing With Elixir/OTP class, so I cannot speak about it.</p>
<p>I was speaking of Unpacked: Multi-Player Bingo, and Elixir for programmers <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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