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								<p>Good suggestion. I’ve watched a couple, and in a way it’s kind of encouraging to see that even  “programming heroes” like Jose must ease stepwise towards a solution. Just like the rest of us.</p> 
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								<p>Would agree that advent of code is a good way to do this <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Elixir koans use tests to run through concepts like sigils, strings, or tasks. It has the left hand side of a match and the right hand side is usually ___ and looking for you to fill in the blank to make the test pass. You move through each test and each section until you’re done and all the tests pass.</p>
<p>It’s less work than Exercism as you’re just filling in blanks. The compiler errors can sometimes give you the exact answer. I find it more useful than just the docs because I’m doing something to reinforce the learning, even if it’s trivial.</p>
<p>Koans from a programming perspective are typically language agnostic so if you’re not familiar with them I can understand how the website and GitHub doesn’t explain much. Not all koans work this way exactly but they’re intended to be this lightweight.</p> 
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<p>It would be useful to try both I think. There is something to the existing workflow though where you essentially run a watcher and change any file you want. Livebook would be much more approachable through an instance on <a href="http://Fly.io" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Fly.io</a> as it doesn’t require running it locally or through Docker. Elixir is much easier to install now but that can be a huge barrier to entry for some people. I feel like that idea is definitely worth pursuing.</p> 
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<p>Indeed, koans in a livebook would be nice. But disqualifies for OP for reasons of webstuff.<br>
But one could put together the idea of text-adventure and interactive koans to some saga of a cruel Elixir-riddler-magician’s dungeon. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/scream.png?v=15" title=":scream:" class="emoji" alt=":scream:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>I wasn’t suggesting it for the OP - it was just an aside prompted by the OP mentioning the original koans being a bit opaque, which I can understand for a beginner. A livebook or unique web app presenting the koans could be more approachable for many. I might have a crack at it myself.</p> 
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<p>I saw your Reddit post and you shutting down a lot of the suggestions. Seems to be the same thing over here.</p>
<p>Also let me help you a little bit: specify what confuses you so that people can adjust accordingly.</p>
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<p>Yea, most of the things sent here are way too hard for me.</p>
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<p>Kinda not pretending to? I’m not gonna be good anyways.</p>
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<p>If you want to learn how you process code in your brain, you can read about “The Programmer’s Brain” (<a href="https://www.manning.com/books/the-programmers-brain" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">The Programmer’s Brain </a>).</p>
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<p>I don’t have the money, sorry.</p>
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<p>He just read it and took the time to understand it.</p>
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<p>I try to read it, I just don’t understand it.</p>
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<p>means you’re too impatient to go through the learning process, which is necessary as a programmer.</p>
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<p>You don’t know about me, but I’ve learning all things people said me to learn. Regex, common languages, etc.</p>
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<p>What I got from this thread is that you found a lot of basic stuff difficult. So what good does aiming for a harder project do?</p>
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<p>You guys did send hard things, lol.But I’m wanting a thing to test what I’ve learned at the basics because that’s what I did in other languages.</p>
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<p>I don’t even know what I ate for breakfast…</p>
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<p>Since you’re also picky, I don’t know how good asking others for suggestions would do. I could suggest to make a CLI-based text adventure style game (like a visual novel except without the visual stuff) but in your Reddit comment you didn’t know what a CLI was.</p>
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<p>I’m not that picky, it was just too hard for me. I’ve already done a text-based game, in Command Line.</p>
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<p>If you say you’re not creative then just make something extremely uncreative like an inventory system you interact with through the CLI.</p>
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<p>What’s an “inventory system”?</p>
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<p>If you don’t even want to learn to make CLI tools, web front-ends to your app, or even the mere interacting with a web API (doesn’t even mean you’re making a website), you’re making it impossible for you to do anything.</p>
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<p>I just don’t want to use web at all. If it’s CLI it’s ok.</p>
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<p>The ability to read docs is a prerequisite for everything in programming.</p>
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<p>I just don’t understand it, sorry.</p>
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<p>Also since people are recommending to watch Jose’s Advent of Code streams, recently I’ve been working on compiling the important bits of his streams into shorter videos. So you don’t have to manually scrub through hours of footage because I have spent countless hours doing just that for you.</p>
<p>I have done Day 1 to 6 so far, and I’m working on Day 8 right now.</p>
<p>I upload them here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUa0_AVebTfZzyzXjfB4dJQ/featured" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUa0_AVebTfZzyzXjfB4dJQ/featured </a>. If anyone is interested, you could subscribe since I’ll be uploading his streams whenever I’m done with the editing.</p>
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<p>Advent of code is too hard for me, I could only do 1 and 2, the rest I can’t even understand the questions. Even if watch it, I wouldn’t understand what he’s doing or what I’m supposed to do.</p> 
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<p>I’m already doing it (Exercism), I just wanted a bigger thing, like a project, because their exercises is just to pass time, it’s not that hard.</p>
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