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								<p>But how do you know which one is the “first” one?</p> 
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								<p>If you don’t specifically need a map, consider using <code>:gb_trees</code> instead. Its <code>take_smallest/1</code> and <code>take_largest/1</code> operations are bound to be quicker than converting to list, sorting, deleting the first entry, and then creating a map again.</p> 
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								<p>I hadn’t really thought of <code>:gb_trees</code> as “ordered maps” but I suppose that’s more or less what they are. Like others have said I’m curious what the OP’s actual use case is where a random key-value pair being taken out of the map is the desired behavior.</p> 
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<p>Yeah this whole exchange is kind of wild.</p>
<p><a class="mention" href="/u/docjazither" rel="nofollow">@docjazither</a> just in case this isn’t abundantly clear: What you’re doing is deleting a <em>random</em> (ish) key from the map. If that’s OK with you then proceed. If it isn’t, please answer one of the several people who asked you to clarify what “first” means to you.</p> 
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<p>I think we all are which is why this thread is still alive <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/sweat_smile.png?v=15" title=":sweat_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":sweat_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>The sorting solutions and <code>:gb_trees</code> are interesting but I suppose it assumes “first” can be determined by some sorting rules. I’ve been assuming (stress on <em>assuming</em> because we’d all like to know for sure) “first” means “first to be inserted”, the way you might determine the order of a list.</p>
<p><a class="mention" href="/u/docjazither" rel="nofollow">@docjazither</a> If you need a key-value data structure with (atom keys and) precise ordering so that “first” can always be preserved, you might be better of with <code>Keyword</code> lists than with <code>Map</code>. If you are adding or removing elements from your map, the “first” in your enumerations will change. Just beware that <code>Keyword.put/3</code> inserts new keys at the head of the list, not the tail.</p>
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# %{four: "four", one: "one", three: "three", two: "two"}

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								<p>fun fact: since 3.7 python dicts keep insertion order.</p>
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<p>No I do not think that we’d want that for Elixir.</p> 
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								<p>Hey, same with Ruby! All hashes will iterate by insertion order.</p> 
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								<p>Also thanks to this thread TIL that in Elixir small maps (<code>&lt;= 32</code> elements) automatically sort the keys by Erlang term order, while large maps (<code>&gt; 32</code> elements) do not!</p> 
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