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<p>It felt like being in the deep end at the beginning, because I was learning both Elixir <strong>and</strong> Phoenix.  Two things really helped me get over the learning curve:</p>
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<p>On point 1, <a class="mention" href="/u/mplatts" rel="nofollow">@mplatts</a> created <a href="https://petal.build/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Petal Framework</a> which is worth checking out.</p>
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<p>It’s difficult to compare 1:1 because the new platform is simpler by design (more pragmatic, less features). However I find myself writing simpler, shorter code in Elixir.</p>
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<p>Never! There are often “aha!” moments when you think “how the heck was I writing that in X when I could have been over here in Elixir doing this way simpler / faster!”</p> 
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<p>Our old platform was a combinaton of Drupal (member profiles, chapters, events, search), Wordpress (blog), Slims (jobs board), and Discourse (forum). We unified everything we needed into a single platform with Phoenix LiveView.</p>
<p>Our server runs with &lt; 500mb memory and we do about ~100k views a month.</p>
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<p>We’re using <a href="https://github.com/buunguyen/topbar" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">topbar</a>. I previously had a spinner in top left. I don’t think we need to point out (too much) to users that we’re waiting for the socket to connect, so I prefer to keep it subtle.</p> 
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								<p>This is really awesome, it’s nice to have a reference LiveView app for a community platform.<br>
The posts are all DB/Ecto based?<br>
Are you using a framework for the markdown CMS pages or rendering those with Elixir also?</p>
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								<p>I’m one of the contributors on this project - I built the CMS that is used to create various pages. All of it is custom Elixir code. It allows either entering straight HTML or Markdown (using Earmark). I also created a basic “blocks” system that allows reusing one CMS page inside another one. All the content is stored in the database.</p>
<p>It’s quite a flexible lightweight system that seems to be filling the need nicely.</p>
<p>Elixir was a first for me as well on this project it was a breath of fresh air <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>Check out my earlier reply to <a class="mention" href="/u/astonj" rel="nofollow">@AstonJ</a> about what we replaced (Drupal, Wordpress, Discourse) and what we need now.</p>
<p>I’ll add that while it’s nice to need less server resources, what motivated me to move to Elixir LiveView was the SPA architecture that allowed us to build in one language/framework with a small team. We also built an early prototype in Vue + GraphQL but realised there was more technical overhead (more seperate parts), and more complexity to solve search-engine indexing (~50% of our traffic is organic).</p> 
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								<p><a class="mention" href="/u/ianc" rel="nofollow">@ianc</a>  Wow! This is just incredible. Congrats on that.<br>
How long took the project? Looks like at leas 1,5 to 2 years?</p>
<p>Maybe another question about the UI library.<br>
Have you been happy with surface or did you more often fall back to self build LiveView components?</p>
<p>I mean - was Surface a huge benefit in the project for you?</p>
<p>My problem is, that I often get stuck in the UI-building part. Elixir is easy, but creating new building blocks and components for my projects every time seem to be like inventing the wheel every time new…<br>
But I am a bit afraid of libraries, as they might restrict me…</p>
<p>cheers <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>I was wondering that too. Announcement on the website is a bit confusing:</p>
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<p>IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT (25 August 2022): Massive Platform is no longer being maintained. We started the project in 2014 and built some amazing communities with it, creating hundreds of thousands of real-world, in-person connections at events all over the world. In 2021 we rebuilt <a href="https://travelmassive.com" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Travel Massive</a> with a new, modern web framework and chose <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/introducing-travel-massive-a-community-platform-built-with-phoenix-liveview/49774" rel="nofollow">Phoenix LiveView</a>. Thanks to everyone who supported Massive Platform over the years. ~ Ian (founder, Travel Massive &amp; Massive Platform).</p>
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<p>But since that announcement was on the same day as this forum topic, I assume that the PHP project is discontinued, but the company continues with a proprietary project based on the new Elixir revamp, and with no source available (thus far).</p> 
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<p>But since that announcement was on the same day as this forum topic, I assume that the PHP project is discontinued, but the company continues with a proprietary project based on the new Elixir revamp, and with no source available (thus far).</p>
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<p>Correct. I’m no longer maintaining the PHP/Drupal platform which is open-source. The new platform we developed with Elixir/Phoenix LiveView is not open-source.</p> 
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