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								<p>I’ve found this thread really interesting, new people can relive past discussions as need be to flesh out their understanding.</p>
<p>There is no requirement for people who have seen such a conversation before to provide any input. If they feel they have the time, a quick link to previous threads is appreciated.</p>
<p>Thinking about the tradeoffs present in some tool is a very effective way to understand the best uses for it. In my experience.</p> 
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<p>Really!?  I started with standard conditional jumps in assembly, which is an <code>if</code> anyway.  I’m curious about your experiences!  Perhaps a new thread and/or blog post?  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Very <em>very</em> much so!</p> 
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								<p>I think macros are more of a hindrance than a help 90% of the time.</p>
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								<p>I would remove the <code>end</code> from anonymous functions. For example:</p>
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								<p>Actually, I take that back. I wouldn’t remove anything. I mean, what the hell do I know? Yeah, not having to “<code>end</code>” anonymous functions would be nice, but I’m sure the language designers evaluated their decisions far better than I can.</p> 
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<p>Nothing without good, valid reason, and support from José and other Elixir experts such as Chris <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c3193d1dd46244da3c8c6f719c9f5e2abdd5ae8.gif?v=15" title=":003:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":003:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Absolutely not.  There is no way polymorphism can perform, for example, <code>for</code> style code generation without significant overhead, nor generate compile-time constant DSEL interfaces, etc… etc…  Even the <code>|&gt;</code> macro is not possible with polymorphism, it just makes no sense as a comparison construct.</p>
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								<p>But you are aware that <code>nil</code> isn’t some magic value in Elixir and Erlang? The same goes for <code>true</code> and <code>false</code>. All of them are just simple atoms, so <code>:nil == nil</code> always. So this is quite impossible to remove it as a whole.</p> 
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