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								<p>BTW, Partisan doesn’t have support for <code>global</code> yet nor other capabilities like <code>pg</code> but I plan on adding those too. As always the challenge is implementing it correctly and efficiently when using HyParView or any user-defined membership strategy using partial-views/partial-mesh</p> 
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								<p>Was just reminded of <a href="https://github.com/mickel8/quic_dist" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">this QUIC distribution protocol lib</a>.</p> 
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								<p>Also fwiw, in the regions we’re in the Fly network has been a lot better in the last few months.</p> 
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<p>I’m interested in that too. I’ve seen similar issues with nodes disconnecting or traffic between them “hanging” from time to time and it’s been quite frustrating. I understand that Erlang distribution wasn’t built for this sort of deployment in mind, and yet people do run huge clusters in the cloud (see WhatsApp) and it somehow gets orchestrated more reliably than what <a href="https://fly.io/docs/elixir/the-basics/clustering/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">fly.io</a> and (Gigalixir)[<a href="https://www.gigalixir.com/docs/cluster" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Clustering | Gigalixir</a>] docs suggest.</p> 
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								<p>AFAIK they used to run a custom Erlang distribution mechanism called “WANDIST” but they gave up on the idea and the cluster as they currently have is a mostly standard Erlang distribution:</p>
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  <p>We have deprecated and removed wandist. It was slower, consumed more CPU &amp; RAM, and suffered from head-of-the-line contention. Erlang distribution (especially with kTLS enabled) is a better alternative.  With pg it is possible to create any number...</p>


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<p>Maybe we can summon <a class="mention" href="/u/max-au" rel="nofollow">@max-au</a> here to share some tips on things like tweaking the defaults and general approach to clustering over semi-reliable infrastructure that happens to be the cloud.</p>
<p>But overall, this should be a “solved problem” and not happening on public clouds, especially those that target Elixir/Erlang deployments like <a href="http://Fly.io" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Fly.io</a> or Gigalixir and it would be within their best interest to develop and share techniques that we can incorporate to avoid random clustering issues from time to time.</p> 
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<p>Wow, this is very interesting. Did you ever manage to test it on <a href="http://fly.io" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">fly.io</a> or not yet?</p> 
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