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								<p>In fact I feel quite certain that where a catch all “any” case is detected which is provably redundant because all the other cases exhaustively handle the set of possible values, the compiler <strong>should</strong> complain.</p>
<p>This will help prevent some <em>bad</em> defensive nanny coding idioms taking hold and occluding detection of future problems as code evolves.</p>
<p>Elixir is not like other languages where the developer must be sure to handle every eventuality, as we have a runtime that handles things we didn’t know about at design time. The last thing we want are idioms that occlude future knowledge as code evolves, and hide problems that we could have detected and handled at design time in future revisions of our system.</p> 
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<p>You are actually ok with <code>:bar -&gt; ???</code>. But adding something like <code>???</code> should come with the caveat that it should not be used in pokemon clauses. If so, that’s a good point and we are in agreement.</p>
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<p>Spot on. Explicit cases are fine, catchalls are bad.</p> 
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<p>I can’t see how that’s different from today, only you don’t have to put any extra code, you just let the unexpected value slip and get a case clause error at runtime.</p>
<p>Been reading the last replies carefully but I am starting to lose the thread of thought; I got no idea what the other posters (you included) have in mind for the theoretical <code>???</code> thingy exactly.</p> 
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								<p>please tell me we’re getting rid of Typespecs in favor of the new syntax in long term? I’d hate to see both syntaxes in use, my brain can barely understand Typespecs as they are</p> 
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								<p>As we can not reuse old typespec syntax as it is not expressive enough, we probably can’t auto convert.</p>
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								<p>Yeah, but when I myself will define a new Behavio(u?)r in my system, I will be able to use the new syntax and free up the space in my brain now painfully occupied by Typespecs one?</p> 
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								<p>This has already been mentioned:</p>
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								<p>Thank you! I think it’s great move.</p> 
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								<p>Thank you both for the continued discussion and clarification.</p>
<p>I agree with many of the points you’ve made. One I’ll call out specifically: the compiler <em>should complain</em> for catch-all cases where the entire set of known values are already handled!</p> 
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