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								<p>Where are you inspecting that? After calling <code>Ash.Changeset.change_attributes/2</code>?</p> 
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								<p><a class="mention" href="/u/zachdaniel" rel="nofollow">@zachdaniel</a> thanks for hanging in there with this long thread! Your question just made me find something really interesting.</p>
<p>I was not inspecting it, I was just looking at the return value in Livebook.</p>
<p>When I inspect the <code>Ash.Changeset</code> after calling <code>Ash.Changeset.change_attributes/2</code>, it is <code>valid?: true</code></p>
<p>The only code where I am doing something wrong is where I am calling it form LiveBook.</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="elixir"><code class="lang-elixir">changeset =
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<p>That is when I get the error about no email, but if I inspect inside the action, right after calling <code>change_attributes/2</code>, it says there are no errors.</p>
<p>I tried to change it to <code>Ash.Changeset.for_create</code> but then I get the following error:</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="elixir"><code class="lang-elixir">** (ArgumentError) Initial must be a changeset with the action type of `:create`, or a resource.

Got: #Red.Accounts.User&lt;
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<p>What confuses me about this error, is that it says it must be a changeset or a resource, my understanding is that it is a resource.</p> 
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								<p><code>%Foo{}</code> is what we call a “record” or an instance of a resource. <code>Foo</code> is the resource <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>GOT IT! Thank you!</p>
<p>This works perfectly from Livebook, which is what we were trying to get to with the last ~7 messages</p>
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<p>And it does change <code>updated_at</code> every time it is called, even if nothing changed.</p> 
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<p>Can you try submitting the action in iex with that <code>upsert_fields</code> set? I’m not sure what the issue is currently.</p>
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<p>What did you mean by <code>upsert_fields</code>? I am setting the <code>auth0_id</code> and <code>email</code>.</p> 
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								<p>Oh right! Here it is.</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="elixir"><code class="lang-elixir">** (Ash.Error.Unknown) Unknown Error

* ** (Protocol.UndefinedError) protocol Enumerable not implemented for {:replace_all_except, [:updated_at]} of type Tuple. This protocol is implemented for the following type(s): DBConnection.PrepareStream, DBConnection.Stream, Date.Range, Ecto.Adapters.SQL.Stream, File.Stream, Function, GenEvent.Stream, HashDict, HashSet, IO.Stream, Jason.OrderedObject, List, Map, MapSet, Phoenix.LiveView.LiveStream, Postgrex.Stream, Range, Stream, StreamData
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								<p>Looks like a regular old bug on that one. I think we haven’t added the logic for transforming the new formats for <code>upsert_fields</code> when it’s provided as an option. Could you open an issue on Ash?</p> 
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								<p>Thanks a million for all the effort you have put into something that was merely an annoyance for me. The least I can do is open an issue. I’ll also try to provide a more minimal example for reproducing it. I don’t think Ash Authentication or Phoenix would need to be involved.</p> 
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