I don’t want to accidentally send message to an actor that it can’t process. Plus my long programming practice has shown me that inheritance does not work; it’s semi-implicit and it almost never does what you want it to do. I prefer composition over inheritance, always.
dimitarvp
v0idpwn
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Onor.io
I think more than one or two developers are in the “I should look at OCaml seriously one day” camp. 
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sodapopcan
Making $20k/month + housing as an intern out of college at Jane St. is a pretty good deal, I think 
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dimitarvp
They are not helping their own cause by being a bit elitist.
Example 1: you have several stdlib[-like] implementations and just picking each one will you use already puts you in a different part of the community and gives you drastically different options to get help when things inevitably don’t go your way.
Example 2: package and dependency management. I have personally seen mailing lists / forum threads with the ever so helpful “what is dependency management?” sarcastic question. So OK, I have to explain what mix and cargo are doing and, you guessed it, “I never had to use those hippy tools” follows. Very helpful, thanks bro. In the meantime I have no idea how to use a library in my project without having to install it globally.
I have shared this before. It took me a good chunk out of one weekend to just make one “hello world”-like OCaml project that needs two external dependencies and manage them and include them in the project with esy. Literally had to write a script that emulates what a Makefile or Justfile would do, just to have like 10% of what mix or cargo would do.
They don’t seem to think that what we believe are problems are actually problems. This kind of disconnect I feel dooms OCaml to obscurity, and from the little I’ve seen people do with it, that’s a loss for everyone.
Oh, one of my favorite responses are also just linking you the root of the docs of one OCaml’s tools e.g. opam. Cool, my problem is solved right away. (And several times I’ve seen people pointed at docs that don’t contain the answer to their problem anyway, as in this case: opam is used to have different versions of OCaml installed and be able to switch between them, and also to install libraries globally; it can also give you a complete “switch” (an environment really) where you install an OCaml toolchain + all the libraries that you need – they’ll do absolutely anything but not introduce local project dependencies, will they?).
I admit I am out of my depth for OCaml. I recognize some seriously badass smart people are working on it and with it. But they seem fairly uninterested to bring in fresh blood to their ranks and IMO that’s a death knell for that ecosystem, eventually.
Hope I am wrong but historically I wasn’t. Or, best-case scenario: they will be forever in the same niche as they always were. Which I think is a status quo they are fine with.
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Onor.io
Yeah but I heard the screening for Jane St. is tough. Not only do you have to invert a binary tree, you’ve got to write an infinite loop that completes in 20 seconds or less.
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cmo
