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<pre data-code-wrap="bash"><code class="lang-bash">#!/usr/bin/env bash

# remove snap

sudo snap remove core
sudo snap remove snapd
sudo apt remove --purge snapd
rm -rf ~/snap
sudo rm -rf /var/cache/snapd/

# To stop Snap from sneaking back during system updates, create a file to block it:
sudo cat &lt;&lt; EOF &gt; /etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref
Package: snapd
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -10
EOF

echo "GOODBYE SNAP FOREVER!"
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								<p>Man I used to love my Linux machines, until I started a job in 2015 and on my first day got sent to the Apple store to buy a Macbook. That was a sad day.</p>
<p>I’ve been pretty entrenched in the Apple ecosystem ever since <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/confused.png?v=15" title=":confused:" class="emoji" alt=":confused:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> I love the hardware, but the software leaves a lot to be desired sometimes</p> 
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								<p>I don’t see why people care to use apple stuff these days. when i was in university the big deal with apple was that the computers came with compilers, linux was sorta trash as slackware was one of the major distros, ubuntu was about the same as it is today (extremely bad). windows is now much better than linux or mac, as you can run arch or ubuntu directly on it, and windows has better performance than typical linux distros.</p>
<p>i’m surprised when devs don’t use tools that are close to their production env, your products aren’t run on apple servers. devs who work on BSD (macos) and linux now have 2 ways of doing things they have to learn. it’s just simpler to focus on 1 system.</p> 
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<p>The fact that you run wsl on windows proves the point that windows is not up to the task when it comes to development experience. I’ve used it back in the day at the university and if you went beyond visual studio, the experince was just horrible, of course wsl was not a thing then.</p>
<p>Let’s also not forget that you get a OS littered with ads, spyware and other useless stuff you cannot easily get rid of. I loved windows 7 and I would be happy to keep using that OS for gaming if they didn’t artificially force you to migrate to newer versions to get latest directx support. These days, if the folk working on making games compatible on linux succeed to make a big part of games work on linux, I will drop my windows installation forever, as windows 11 even managed to screw up the audio drivers and I get crackling in a lot of games, (and I’m not the only one) never found a fix after searching for multiple hours even to this day.</p> 
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<p>When I first got my mac air m1, I thought that macos is just a linux-like distribution with a great desktop environment, this was always an issue for me on linux until I recently found out plasma.</p>
<p>The last major update that introduced “AI” and I couldn’t opt-out was a clear sign that this is not the case. Most likely this will get much worse from this point on, so linux remains the only sane choice in this insane world. I’m very happy that in the last 5 years linux distributions got huge improvements when it comes to it being used as a desktop OS.</p> 
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<p>Funny, I take WSL as an example of why Windows is able to still do serious development. I would pick Windows third of the three, and personally avoid it, but WSL is a great solution.</p> 
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								<p>Not that I’ve found but they may exist. From my experience with Linux laptops (Thinkpads) you can get great screens and decent performance, but not the same battery life as a MacBook. My current personal laptop is a Thinkpad T14s Gen4 AMD, with a gorgeous OLED display, but the battery life leaves a lot to be desired. The screen itself is a big draw and the lower resolution screens should improve battery life. I also assume it has something to do with battery capacity. My work MBP M3 is almost a pound heavier, and some of that must be battery.</p> 
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<p>Despite my rant macOS is still one of the best operating systems and a great choice for developers being Unix based/derived and because it’s so popular with developers (so most of the dev tools and software you need will usually be available/work well on a Mac).</p>
<p>There’s also the general UX which resonates with a lot of people, and nowadays, the integration with your other Apple devices. Such as you being able to reply to text messages on your Mac, when they come in for 2FA your Mac will autofill the code from them and then automatically delete them, you can easily link up your iPad (via wifi/bluetooth) as a second display and now you can even mirror your iPhone! I no longer watch YouTube when I am eating at my desk, now I just open up TikTok via iPhone mirroring <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/776053aa22968f83c10e90c98b23aa0ddd5c9d47.gif?v=15" title=":lol:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":lol:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"> You can also copy and paste between Mac and Phone, share contacts across all devices, even share web browsing - so you can start reading something on your Mac then continue on your phone. I love the Books app as any highlights I make on my iPad will show on my Mac.</p>
<p>There are other really good positives as well - such as the excellent Time Machine backup system and FileVault, which encrypts your hard disk and is so fast that when switched on you can’t even notice the difference - this is because there is dedicated silicon to handle the encryption and decryption (built in to Apple Silicon Macs and via the T2 chip in older Macs).</p>
<p>So there are a a lot of benefits and reasons to use a Mac, but many people wish there were less negatives creeping in, and that privacy is uncompromising. I was never a Steve Jobs fanboy, but I think if he was still around we’d be seeing a lot fewer of these negatives/concerns. Many people feel they never should have made the person responsible for worldwide sales the CEO - it completely goes against what most people yearn for: for large companies that we rely and depend on to have clear and strong principles higher than that of making money.</p> 
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<p>Many people feel they never should have made the head of finance the CEO - it completely goes against what most people yearn for: for large companies that we rely and depend on to have clear and strong principles higher than that of making money.</p>
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<p>I agree with you for the most part, but Cook was an operations guy not a finance guy. He has done very well for Apple in that regard, but Jobs was a unique individual. I don’t think Apple has a snowball’s chance to find another like him.</p>
<p>It’s all about tradeoffs really. Every system has its plusses and minuses, and while I am pulling for Linux, I think we are seeing that it has significant struggles just like Mac and Windows. I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes something totally new to unseat the big 3, and there’s no telling how long it might be before we see that. In the meantime I will stick with Apple just because it is the most problem free for me, but I can certainly see why others might choose Linux or even Windows, which is clearly the worst choice. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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