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								<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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<p>Hopefully supporting cellular is just as straightforward, as this will be a game changer compared to the current RPI (or other singleboard) solutions.</p>
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<p>I can connect to my APN using qmicli in buildroot, but I haven’t managed to make it work with <code>vintage_net_qmi</code> yet. Due to the fact it’s dual sim, you also need to run a couple of commands before you can use the modem. PostmarketOS has a service that does all that and I just copy pasted it <a href="https://github.com/Spin42/buildroot-fp2/blob/main/buildroot-external/package/sim-selector/S39sim-selector" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">in my buildroot port</a>. It looks at the two SIM card slots, checks which one has a card inserted, then reconfigures the modem to use that one.</p>
<p>To support cellular in the Nerves system, it “just” means translating that service into Elixir code, most probably wrapping qmicli itself and providing a nice Elixir library to include in your firmware. I’ll try to get it done during the next weeks.</p>
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<p>Have you managed to get scenic or something like phoenix liveview running already? If yes, then this is huge.</p>
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<p>It’s my first time using scenic but here you go:</p>
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<p>There is a drm device exposed so anything using this will work. Wpewebkit or similar should work out of the box, and since I’ve been using flutter with Nerves on some other projects, it might be a good thing to try here as well.</p>
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<p>I have a old xiaomi poco f1, if you will ever post a short tutorial on how to do the modifications I would gladly give a try to modify the firmware for it. I am very interested in letting it run for prolonged amounts of time and see if it is up to the task in terms of stability, as I’ve tried once to run a phoenix server as a android app and I was seeing some very strange performance degradation.</p>
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<p>I’d say the very first step is to install PostmarketOS on it by following their doc on the wiki for <a href="https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Xiaomi_POCO_F1_(xiaomi-beryllium)" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">your device</a>.</p>
<p>You can install PostmarketOS in console mode (no GUI), and then you basically have Alpine Linux, so if you only aim to get an OTP app running on it, you should already be able to install OTP and Elixir on Alpine and have what you want.</p>
<p>To get Nerves on it requires more digging, and the first step is to get the kernel config and firmware for your device. All the work on the SOC present on this phone seems to be happening <a href="https://gitlab.com/sdm845-mainline/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">here</a> so it seems promising. Digging into the PostmarketOS Alpine packages for your device will give you all the information you need to translate it into a buildroot port.</p>
<p>But first things first, make sure you can run PostmarketOS on it.</p> 
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								<p>Love this!</p>
<p>Is this on a vanilla phone? I know you knew a company that is repurposing the phones.</p> 
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								<p>Yes, this is all on a vanilla phone.</p>
<p>And indeed, the company that repurposes the phones is Citronics, the link is already in this thread. I actually have on my desk one of their motherboards where you screw the Fairphone on.</p>
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<p>The motherboard is basically a power supply for the phone, a USB 2.0 hub with an Ethernet adapter, and, also connected via USB, an STM32 that controls the GPIO connector. This one is an early prototype, the V1.0 will be easier to use.</p> 
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								<p>After working on porting Nerves to this fairphone 2, it got me thinking: “how far back can I go ?”.</p>
<p>It turns out I have a few Android devices in a drawer here, and one of my oldest devices is the Google Nexus 7 tablet from 2012.</p>
<p>I was pleased to find out that this tablet supports U-Boot so I embarked, yet again, on a most probably useless journey to bring Nerves to Android e-waste. They sold several millions back in the days, so maybe this will be useful for someone out there <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>Replacing the stock bootloader by UBoot was not so easy. You need the battery to be charged enough (mine is quite dead), and bring the device in APX mode, which meant starting the device with an unplugged battery then plugging it in again while connected. Anyway…</p>
<p>After some tinkering with some nerve configuration, I got it working.</p>
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<p>Ethernet over USB works, wifi too, there are a couple of things I need to look into but I managed to burn a simple firmware to it.</p>
<p>Overall, despite replacing the stock bootloader, the process was quite easier than I thought, there were less custom packages involved and with U-Boot, I have full access to the internal memory, the original Android partition table is gone.</p>
<p>For those interested, the system is <a href="https://github.com/Spin42/nerves_system_grouper" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">here</a> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/alien_monster.png?v=15" title=":alien_monster:" class="emoji" alt=":alien_monster:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>My next victim might be a Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo from 2014… but if you have some popular old Android devices you would like to get rid of and you are coming to NervesConfEU/Goatmire Elixir in September, maybe you can bring them… <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smile.png?v=15" title=":smile:" class="emoji" alt=":smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Love it! Seems I could score one for $10 or so.</p> 
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								<p>They should be relatively cheap indeed. There was also a 2013 version with a modem (codename tilapia), you will need to make adjustments the the system (at least change the dts in the kernel config) and it should boot as is. Support for the modem would need to be investigated though.</p> 
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								<p>After several months trying to support the Fairphone2 modem in <code>vintage_net_qmi</code>. It turns out that on such old modems, you can force <code>raw_ip</code> with QMI messages since doing it via /sys/class was not possible on old models. Recently released Claude models were able to figure it out…</p>
<p>This means that I can now use 4G with Nerves on this old smartphone. Many changes were required to both <a href="https://github.com/mlainez/qmi" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">QMI</a> and to <a href="https://github.com/mlainez/vintage_net_qmi" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Vintage Net QMI</a> and it is not certain all of them will be merged to the upstream.</p>
<p>I also had to create <a href="https://github.com/mlainez/ex_rmtfs" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">ExRmtfs</a> to make sure that the necassary daemons were running and the modem remoteprocs were started at boot.</p>
<p>I was able to test this on the latest version of the Citronics board which is powered by a Fairphone2. You don’t see the phone on that picture because the new design puts it at the back of the board though…</p>
<p>I have also updated the <a href="https://github.com/Spin42/nerves_system_fairphone2/" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Nerves System Fairphone 2</a> to the latest <code>nerves_system_br</code>.</p>
<p>This closes the Nerves port on Fairphone 2, it was the last missing feature to really take advantage of it.</p>
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<p>Maybe I’ll post other Android devices ports in the future, maybe not…</p> 
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								<p>this is sick!</p> 
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