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								<p>Official support for <code>DaisyUI</code> or <code>Tailwind</code> is a pure <code>Phoenix Core Team</code> decision - it’s their generators, so they should decide how a default <code>Phoenix</code> app should behave. That’s said since <code>--no-tailwind</code> option is supported I’m looking forward for a solution like the one I described.</p>
<p>Also look that after compilation of <code>scss</code> files, that I have suggested, you would have a single vanilla <code>app.css</code> file that you can use in your own generators very easily. I found myself <code>dart_sass</code> too useful to go with vanilla, but my proposal should be flexible enough I guess. It does not even require <code>igniter</code> to make vanilla <code>CSS</code> work easily for you.</p> 
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<p>I don’t see why the default couldn’t be vanilla, and then have command arguments or igniter commands to add tailwind and etc.</p>
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<p>This is not a technical concern. There’s simply noone to maintain that vanilla css codebase - while at the same time generators are expected to be more and more elaborate with the advances of function components and the starts of a component system in the generators. There’s also many people who would like to have igniter used for phoenix generators, but again it’s a lot of work to redo the generators and make sure things still work especially with the gained flexibility.</p> 
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								<p>There is literally no maintenance required for bare bones CSS, as it would be an empty file with a comment about here you put your stuff.</p>
<p>My comment is more about software architecture in general.</p>
<p>There is nothing stopping us from having an additional flow vs sub tractional.</p> 
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								<p>You can’t give a completely unstyled dev experience out of the box. That’s just a hard no for any kind of adoption.</p> 
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								<p>I do not see how this is relevant, to OP’s problem. FYI I’m talking about software architecture, and the additional flow pattern. Adoption is a completely different subject in this matter. And to be frank both can exist and live in harmony together. One thing does not exclude the other.</p> 
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								<p>Why not? Most frameworks contain minimal reset CSS (Next, Nuxt, SveltKit, etc) or no styling at all (Rails) and adoption isn’t a problem for them. Phoenix is one of the few that comes with an opinionated CSS framework bundled by default.</p> 
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								<p>Any chance to get a migration guide from 1.7.x to 1.8?<br>
In particular getting simplifieds layouts working with dead views would be of interest for me, as layout views like MyAppWeb.ControllernameMyApp.LayoutView are suddenly requested after the upgrade to 1.8.</p> 
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