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								<p>Well I’m not really aligned with your conclusions. If we want to implement a tool that is not fast (it searches through database or runs network calls to an Elastic search instance), then all other users will have to wait in line.</p>
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<p>5 seconds is a lot. If you have 3 users using the server at the same time, one user will wait 15 seconds before the calling llm displays anything.</p> 
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								<p>just found the project yesterday, looks amazing! i think this will be the most robust MCP implementation existed!</p> 
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								<p>thanks! i think we need to have some improvements, like for the supervision architecture on-going discussion, protocol negotiation/version alignment too and specially documentation, but im doing my better since im the only active maintainer/core</p> 
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								<p>yeah, but my main point is that MCP is a bidirectional sync communication. there’s no “async response” (kinda emulated with SSE, but not very similar either) i think my main “flaw” on this architecture was to separate the <code>frame</code> (user server state) from the <code>session</code> “generic” MCP server state, since on MCP sessions are not exposed to users actually as they are an internal concept of “client specific connection state”, although hermes aims to have a very similar API/design from LiveView, but we can’t replicate the dynamic behaviour of LiveView since a MCP server is stateful.</p>
<p>the other main problem could be the “base” transport being a single genserver, we may refactor it just to a plain code router and transform the <code>Session</code> one into the main implementor for request handling instead of being just a opaque process holding partial state.</p>
<p>but the major challenge here is that MCP can have multiple different transport layers and although some are more simpler (like STDIO that will have always 1:1 client/server), HTTP based transports can easily have N:1 client/server and if we consider sessions here, this ratio comes to N:N:1 client/session/server with bidirectional/stateful communication, which doesn’t seems to be very simple to architecture. i would like to discuss more and actually ask for help. the last change i did was to at least reduce the bottleneck removing the transport layer from this problem, so it now routes the request async to the <code>Base</code>, which now answers directly to the SSE handler/HTTP connection instead of base-&gt;transport-&gt;handler, but of course the <code>Base</code> stills have the same problem.</p>
<p>what i would think to “solve” this problem would be:</p>
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<li>handle user defined module request async and make the user defined server answer directly to transport instead of the <code>Base</code> server, transforming into a simple router and maybe removing stateful nature from it. the problem here is that we need to maintain the frame state, which could be changed by the user defined server, so we start to need to handle different frame versions?</li>
<li>merge session/frame into a single process for request handling, so we may solve the problem on point 1?</li>
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								<p>i scanned quickly yesterday source code, and it looks impressive. now i’m thinking do i still need my internal Tool implementation that i’m using with elixir agent, or should i standardize everything to hermes-mcp handle_tool logic</p> 
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								<p>hey everyone!</p>
<p>I’m the core maintainer of <code>hermes-mcp</code>, which has grown to 30k+ downloads and 250+ GitHub stars. Since i’m not working anymore on the Cloudwalk org and I’m uncertain about their long-term maintenance plans for the project, I’ve decided to fork and rebrand it as Anubis MCP <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wolf.png?v=15" title=":wolf:" class="emoji" alt=":wolf:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<h2><a name="p-370310-whats-the-situation-1" class="anchor" href="#p-370310-whats-the-situation-1" aria-label="Heading link" rel="nofollow"></a>What’s the situation:</h2>
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<li>Given corporate uncertainties, I want to ensure the community has a guaranteed maintained version</li>
<li>Anubis MCP is already published following the same latest release</li>
<li>I’m tracking all existing issues and pull requests from the original</li>
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<h2><a name="p-370310-what-you-get-2" class="anchor" href="#p-370310-what-you-get-2" aria-label="Heading link" rel="nofollow"></a>What you get:</h2>
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<li>Continued active development and community support</li>
<li>All the performance and reliability you’re used to</li>
<li>Same API, easy migration path</li>
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<p>The name Anubis felt fitting - as the Egyptian god of transitions, it seemed appropriate for guiding this project through its  own transition. Plus, sometimes you need a deity of change to help you… transition <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/transgender_flag.png?v=15" title=":transgender_flag:" class="emoji" alt=":transgender_flag:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>If you’re currently using <code>hermes-mcp</code>, I’d encourage migrating to <code>anubis-mcp</code> for guaranteed ongoing support and development.</p>
<p>Repository: <a href="https://github.com/zoedsoupe/anubis-mcp" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">GitHub - zoedsoupe/anubis-mcp: Elixir Model Context Protocol (MCP) SDK (hermes-mcp fork) · GitHub</a><br>
Hex: <a href="https://hex.pm/packages/anubis_mcp" class="inline-onebox" rel="nofollow">anubis_mcp | Hex</a></p>
<p>Would love your continued support and feedback! And now i have more free time to take care about more delicate parts of the project, like documentation ^-^</p> 
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								<p>hi <a class="mention" href="/u/zoedsoupe" rel="nofollow">@zoedsoupe</a> , just some feedback on the project based on your <a href="https://github.com/cloudwalk/hermes-mcp/issues/179#issuecomment-3062557394" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">architecture</a>:</p>
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<p>cool project and nice project name <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>hey <a class="mention" href="/u/ziinc" rel="nofollow">@ziinc</a>!</p>
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<li>yes! i would like to make the server architecture more reliable/stable and then allow users to customize/extend it like with custom HTTP clients or even session stores, which cover the nest topic</li>
<li>yeah, i over complicated the session managed and sincerely i should ditch it totally and merge with the <code>frame</code> concept since as i already said on this thread, “session” in the perspective of MCP is an internal technical detail and should not be exposed to users directly (at least the management). we already have a auto-cleanup/auto-close feature tho, but ETS is way better in this case and we could extend it as said on 1. making an interface for whim would to store session on other stores like redis.</li>
<li>i don’t think is possible to do that actually, although it seems to be better, it need to hold state but we can think of it as a router? so sessions process the message and answer directly to the transport/SSE process</li>
<li>yes! i will be doing that</li>
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<p>thanks for the feedback, i’ll be tackling it in the next weeks and i generally agree with all points! also remembering that i forked the original repo to <code>anubis-mcp</code></p> 
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								<p>i agree but i don’t think its possible to update the title anymore</p> 
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