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<p>You could buy it, but you would never own it. You bought the ability to play it (privately) on your device - maybe a friends device - until the tape broke.</p>
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<p>Depending on law system I guess? Of course you own it, but you own only a copy and not the rights to the original one. If you would own it fully then you would have rights to release a sequel for example which is acceptable. Technically you can make as many backups as long as only you can access them and you can prove you bough it. Not everywhere you can invite a friend, but this rule is terrible and in fact it gives less income to the authors.</p>
<p>I also have fun from coding as you wrote and really can’t imagine to not think about alternative solutions just to “make things faster”. Faster != better - it’s one of many old rules that existed long before movies about AI. Unfortunately like many other old and rules it’s gonna be forgotten soon and everyone is supposed to accept it blindly.</p> 
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<p>In a perfect definitely world it would be that easy, but in ours it’s like being at least few years behind others. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slightly_frowning_face.png?v=15" title=":slightly_frowning_face:" class="emoji" alt=":slightly_frowning_face:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Everyone on this forum can buy a RTX3060, run Nx and Ollama with a 4b open source models.  You can actually do useful tasks with low end gear and models, you’ll learn a lot, and set yourself up for future availability of cheap powerful hardware and local/distributed intelligence.  Most interesting AI developments are at the high-end (subscription models) and low-end (local inference).</p> 
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<p>There have been a few stories about it on DT, but here’s a vid that covers a bit of it:</p>
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<p>Haven’t had a chance to go through it yet, but there’s been lots of talk about the 2027 AI forecast:</p>
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<p>The CEOs of <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-sam-altman-interview" rel="nofollow">OpenAI</a>, <a href="https://www.bigtechnology.com/p/google-deepmind-ceo-demis-hassabis" rel="nofollow">Google DeepMind</a>, and <a href="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp500-nasdaq-live-01-21-2025/card/anthropic-ceo-says-ai-could-surpass-human-intelligence-by-2027-9tka9tjLKLalkXX8IgKA" rel="nofollow">Anthropic</a> have all predicted that AGI will arrive within the next 5 years. Sam Altman <a href="https://webcf.waybackmachine.org/web/20250106014723/https://blog.samaltman.com/reflections" rel="nofollow">has said</a> OpenAI is setting its sights on “superintelligence in the true sense of the word” and the “glorious future.”<a href="https://ai-2027.com/footnotes#footnote-3" rel="nofollow">3</a></p>
<p>What might that look like? We wrote AI 2027 to answer that question. Claims about the future are often frustratingly vague, so we tried to be as concrete and quantitative as possible, even though this means depicting one of many possible futures.</p>
<p>We wrote two endings: a “slowdown” and a “race” ending. However, AI 2027 is not a recommendation or exhortation. Our goal is predictive accuracy.<a href="https://ai-2027.com/footnotes#footnote-4" rel="nofollow">4</a></p>
<p>We encourage you to debate and counter this scenario.<a href="https://ai-2027.com/footnotes#footnote-5" rel="nofollow">5</a> We hope to spark a broad conversation about where we’re headed and how to steer toward positive futures. We’re <a href="https://ai-2027.com/about?tab=bets-and-bounties#tab-box-bets-and-bounties" rel="nofollow">planning to give out thousands in prizes</a> to the best alternative scenarios.</p>
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								<p>Ofc they predict that, we in the next round of 1999 IT boom. The hype now is unreal but still a game changer how we work and focus on what to learn to tag along.</p> 
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								<p>The best “AI” – well, LLMs, let’s call them by their real name – right now are behind corporate subscriptions.</p>
<p>That tells me everything I need to know about “the future of AI”; it will be used to extract rent from everyone who can do meaningful knowledge work because they will be afraid that their colleague is going to be faster and better than them if they don’t use the LLM. A classic race to the bottom / rat race. Chaos and game theories tell us – and proved it with historical examples – that this spirals down at an accelerating rate until the system crashes and burns.</p>
<p>I for one am not impressed by the normalization of this extreme rent-seeking.</p>
<p>And if artificial super-intelligence indeed emerges, I’ll panic. Severely so. These agents will serve the worst of humanity at the cost of everyone else. So much awful practices in hiring and work have been normalized in the last 10-15 years, that some dystopia sci-fi authors are likely hugely impressed that even their bleak novels missed the mark by such a big margin. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/425cf8a2af1868cc834c0a12b6f0c9ef0e530de9.gif?v=15" title=":icon_biggrin:" class="emoji emoji-custom" alt=":icon_biggrin:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>And if ASI comes to existence? Multiply those terrible practices by 100x. Even movies like Blade Runner and games like Cyberpunk 2077 and series like Ghost In The Shell will seem tame and optimistic. I would argue we already live in cyberpunk… but we don’t have the choice to get cool and powerful body implants. We only got the worst parts of it.</p>
<p>I believe the AI area has true potential, but only if it’s forcefully plucked out of the hands of the psychopathic mega-capitalist owner class first. Only if LLMs become libre do we as a civilization have a chance to collectively enact a true positive change in the world.</p>
<p>Before that happens – if it ever happens – we are just very predictably moving to an extremely bleak future. The people who own stuff have proven, time and again, that they are not interested in the well-being of the rest of us.</p> 
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								<p>Mixed feelings… The older I get, the more I realize how valuable time is and if I can offload mundane, junior level tasks to AI so I can focus on more interesting problems, why not?</p>
<p>I was also thinking the other day how much of our ego comes into this discussion when it comes to AI completing tasks for us that are in no way historically important and will likely be deleted in the next 5-10 years (if we are lucky).  AI erodes the knowledge gap that we previously held on others in regards to technology and I wonder if any of us feel threatened by that at all?</p>
<p>I do like the power it can give me to get unstuck though.  I have been working on a personal project that I have been making zero headway on.  The other day I threw an LLM at my project to get me unstuck and it came back with some code that at least got me moving again.  So maybe we will head more into the role of producers rather than developers.  I kinda like that idea, I have always been someone who gets more excited by the idea and concept and I think AI will give us the power to create more of the projects that might have sat idle or never even saw the light of day.</p>
<p>I also use it as part of maintenance tickets.  It is nice to be able to throw the LLM at the problem (with a decent prompt and project context) and at least put you in the ballpark of where the root cause lies and eases some of the leg work you need to do when replicating issues.</p>
<p>I think as long as you understand what it is creating (and can guide it to better suited solutions), then there shouldn’t be a problem.</p> 
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								<p>Quite conflicted. Use it all day for programming. It’s revolutionary. Groundbreaking. A magnificent invention. True. But it doesn’t have a soul, and therefore I think it should stay away from songs, emails, prayers and such: whenever a human reaches out. When I find it there I kinda hate it.<br>
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<p>Oh man, this is a big one for me I don’t say out loud much.  When I know there are OSS tools you can run locally, but I don’t like the idea that anyone is paying a subscription to <em>work on</em> hobby projects.  Paying for hosting and all that has always made sense, but this feels so off.</p>
<p>Though really when it comes down to it, it’s more about not wanting to give these companies my, or even my employer’s, money.</p> 
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<p>Though really when it comes down to it, it’s more about not wanting to give these companies my, or even my employer’s, money.</p>
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<p>And my data. I’m not sure whats more valuable at the moment.</p> 
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<p>I understand the seductiveness of this line of thinking, but it does well up a despair inside of me.</p>
<p>Mundane tasks are what puts food on our family’s tables, and are by definition a constantly moving target that AI will just shift, not eliminate. Spending our time on junior level tasks is how we become senior. Giving juniors tasks is how we nurture those who will come after our valuable time is up. Talking through problems with our peers is how we build community.</p>
<p>Conversely, chasing constant novelty is unsustainable; “talking” with bots is dehumanizing; and, if social media is any indicator, both are immensely damaging to the human psyche, even if solving interesting problems does itch my ADHD something powerful. Value-maxxing our attention and energy for the benefit of corporate shareholders is not, in my opinion, a way to value our valuable time.</p>
<p>I wanna be part of the human experience, dammit. <em>That’s</em> what <em><strong>makes</strong></em> my time valuable, not my productivity. I don’t want to sell that out to become more efficient, though I will have to if these winds continue to prevail, and I resent it immensely.</p> 
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