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<p>But let me point out that fuzz / mutation / property / integration testing is also TDD of sorts.</p>
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<p>but if writing them helps inform lower level design but then you throw away all those tests away once you move up a level, you’re still doing TDD</p>
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<p>lol I see I managed to snipe <em>both</em> of you with this throwaway line.</p>
<p>Hobbes’s development is absolutely driven by testing. In fact, it’s test-driven to a frankly extreme degree. But it is not “Test Driven Development” in the popular sense. The first line for TDD on wikipedia literally explicitly mentions “unit tests” so I feel pretty justified that that’s the popular sense.</p>
<p>And I <em>have</em> written ExUnit tests as a means to develop features sometimes, but they are not unit tests. They are serving as stand-ins for a script, with the sole reason being that <code>mix test</code> is easier to type than <code>mix run priv/scripts/whatever.exs</code>. There is no resemblance to actual unit testing.</p>
<p>I did not have such an extreme opinion before working on this project, but unit tests are completely and utterly worthless. They are best used as a manual method of snapshot testing to catch regressions, but one would be better off doing actual snapshot testing there.</p>
<p>Once you are working on a program which is complex enough that you cannot exhaustively validate its correctness in your head, you need to start fuzzing. Every database-shaped codebase I have read (which is, at this point, many) has had fuzzers. I don’t know why people don’t talk about this more, but I guess it’s just something that you learn pretty quickly while working on such code.</p>
<p>Unit tests <em>do not</em> find bugs. They suck.</p> 
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<p>Just keep in mind that I wrote that in the context of serving <em>my</em> needs, and what replaces Postgres for <em>me</em> may not necessarily replace it for <em>you</em>. You might like parts of Postgres that I dislike, for example SQL, and you certainly won’t be getting those parts from me!</p>
<p>But for Hobbes specifically, the idea is that <em>you</em> could use it to build your own database if you like. Query planning ain’t easy, though.</p> 
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<p>Well good, now that we’re on the same page I can ruin your day by telling you I don’t think distributed process registries are a very good idea.</p>
<p>There is a specific architecture that I see people reaching to. Like you have a job queue, and you want to ensure only one process executes each job.</p>
<p>This is the wrong approach. No matter how hard you try it’s basically impossible to ensure there is actually only one process. I am not going to justify this statement, in part because clearly you have some idea of how much this sucks, but… it sucks. Don’t do it.</p>
<p>Instead, you can push the guarantees down to the datastore. Insert a job row, and then when it’s complete delete the job row and insert the result. We’ve discussed this before.</p>
<p>The problem is that in order to do this at scale you need a Very Big Multitenant Distributed Database or it gets very hard.</p>
<p>This project is, actually, that database.</p>
<p>I do not want a process registry to coordinate jobs for an external datastore. I want a datastore that enables me to <em>not do that</em>.</p>
<p>See also: <a href="https://www.foundationdb.org/files/QuiCK.pdf" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">the QuiCK paper</a></p> 
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<p>That’s largely my point: I don’t see them as a means of catching bugs, I see them as a means of informing design.  In all honesty I usually don’t end up deleting them, but in the case of a large refactor I throw them away and don’t bring them back.  I’ve tried fully top down before which was great in getting full coverage, however it a single function interface that parsed and execute instructions for mapping images onto product templates.  I ended up with very thorough tests but the code itself was a bit of a mess.  These days I start somewhere in the middle (but I don’t want to derail this thread too much and I’ve already had some exhausting TDD convos around here… sooooo I’ll shut up now)</p> 
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								<p>lol I couldn’t care less about derailing so don’t worry about that.</p>
<p>But we probably don’t actually disagree about anything here. It’s just that I <em>do</em> need to find bugs, and the tests that actually find bugs dwarf the coverage of unit tests so completely as to make them totally insignificant. And yet somehow unit tests are <em>more</em> annoying to write.</p> 
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								<p>Oh ya, I know we’re almost entirely agreeing here, I’ve just already been down the “unit tests are worthless!” path and then decided, “Well, maybe there is some value.”  But who knows, maybe you won’t!</p>
<p>Along those lines, LiveViewTest was a major draw of LiveView me.  I still often start with them but then immediately dip down (so I guess more BDD?)</p> 
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								<p>Excellent. Not a SQL fan either so curious to hear more about what you’re cooking.</p> 
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								<p>Congrats, and thanks for sharing your progress!</p>
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<p>Given the comments from different people above:</p>
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<p>Have you looked at khepri:</p>
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<p>I’m also linking the <a href="https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/exesdb-a-beam-native-event-store/70200" rel="nofollow">ExESDB Event Store</a> that <a class="mention" href="/u/beamologist" rel="nofollow">@beamologist</a> created on top of khepri and ra– more idea/though cross-pollination .</p> 
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<p>To be fair, a database like this is a tool with a <em>very</em> constrained API and extremely strong correctness requirements, so this is like the worst case for unit tests. Unit tests are probably better for situations where a large number of mediocre tests can cover a large API surface area which is unlikely to have deep bugs.</p>
<p>But, like, they’re still <em>inferior</em>. You’re just “getting away with it” there.</p>
<p>This is actually quite relevant because I think the biggest failure of FoundationDB was that the simulator cannot (easily) be used to test layers. By writing Hobbes, the layers, <em>and the application</em> in Elixir my goal is to be able to fuzz them all *together, deterministically, using Construct. In this way, I hope to finally fulfill what I see as FDB’s true potential.</p>
<p>So the question of what these fuzzers look like with <em>application</em> code is actually very relevant to me, and it’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot. I have nothing to show for it yet, but if things go well then down the road I will be able to demonstrate a better path.</p>
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<p>I agree. The even longer-term goal is to find a way to fuzz UI code, but I genuinely have no idea what that will look like. Especially since I want to move to JS for that. It’s gonna get <em>weird</em>…</p> 
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								<p>Actually it was ExESDB that I was thinking of, but I couldn’t remember the name in the moment so I just used Commanded for the example. ExESDB is a <em>perfect</em> example of something that you would implement with Hobbes.</p>
<p>It probably needs a more memorable name, though…</p> 
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