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								<p>First I’d like to put this into the actual reality context where the following applies:</p>
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<p>In my own experience, most of the time spent today (say, when building a full featured multi-tenant Phoenix LiveView app) is not being spent on coding or even designing the system, but in (no particular order) on brainstorming, designing UX, defining visual standards, sensing the user needs, live-testing, capturing of and reasoning about the user feedback, and yes, marketing the product, all being workflows that are not even technical.</p>
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<p>Since it would be borderline insane to delegate the said stakeholder responsibilities to an LLM, and since the technical part is definitely not the bottleneck (but could easily become as a result of an artificial “creativity”/automatic code generation), why would one even invest into optimizing that what’s not the problem in the first place?</p>
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<p>The sheer notion that there are enough (human) resources to a) devise a large enough number of business use cases/opportunities and b) be capable of filling up an enormously parallel agentic enterprise with articulated requirements is laughable.</p>
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<p>In short, if the idea is to produce something that generates revenue once deployed, developing it is the least of all concerns.</p> 
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								<p>I was very serious about the next-gen being a stateful Simcity-like environment given what seems to start existing today, I think this will be a simple consequence of the balooning swarms running even when you are not there (and I guess I will try it if it exists out of curiosity). Today this seems very wasteful though.</p> 
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								<p>I think using something like Gas Town with frontier models could get very expensive very quickly. If you have the compute, it could be fun and interesting to experiment with a local model.</p> 
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								<p>The idea reminds me of the <a href="https://github.com/a16z-infra/ai-town?tab=readme-ov-file" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">code here</a></p>
<p>OR see for live demo <a href="https://www.convex.dev/ai-town" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">here</a></p> 
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								<p>Outpaced by reality once again !</p>
<p>This is very near the kind of stuff I thought about. I explored the underlying tech marketing sites and felt old.</p>
<p>I guess an organisation could have a stateful “world” that represents all their ongoing projects, and have swarms of agents “cities” that allocate resources and/or collaborate through global “institutions” to help factor projects in the light of business goals, while cities have “districts” or other things working on the actual details of each project. The next-gen developer would then log into this world and see how things are going by questioning “officials”.</p>
<p>Thinking about it more, I might have gotten this idea from Cixin Liu’s <em>The supernova era</em> which is a sci-fi port of William Golding’s <em>Lord of the flies</em>. Well Gas Town looks already like that but the next step might be realizing interacting with this through text and terminals makes the management too much one-dimensional, whereas two-dimensional models (infinite canvases) or three-dimensional ones with a notion of permanence (RPG-like worlds) would be more apt.</p>
<p>I’ll watch this from very, very far away if it happens ! But as we seem to collectively <strong>love</strong> stacking complexity in layers, I don’t see why it wouldn’t happen – except if it is a bit too much complexity to build with claude code ?</p> 
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<p>.. and every transaction gets permanently written on the blockchain, I imagine.</p>
<p>But how does the fundamental workflow of the business model fit into all this - the part where top RE developers cut deals with / bribe the city officials into keeping the zoning laws restrictive so they can keep on milking the buyers and renters dry with artificially overpriced housing units?</p> 
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<p>That’s what I’ve been thinking when it comes to deriving tangible value out of the token-spending loop.</p>
<p>A business (typically?) involves way more than just software. The hard problem is not writing more code.</p>
<p>And then humans become the bottleneck… we still need human pace to operate the rest of the business.</p>
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<li>Maybe all the tokens and dollars spent go towards negative ROI?</li>
<li>Are agent loops successful operating real life consequential things with better than random success rates? You can throw away software and start over, but you can’t e.g. undo bank transactions and try again.</li>
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								<p>I built my own tool called Stride (<a href="https://www.stridelikeaboss.com" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://www.stridelikeaboss.com</a>) to facilitate an AI driven workflow that allows humans to decide to inject themselves at different points in the workflow. There are several companies in Canada that are using it right now and interest is growing. It is a Phoenix/LiveView app. I have blogged about it a lot at <a href="https://cheezyworld.ca" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://cheezyworld.ca</a>.</p>
<p>This post describes the workflow although a lot of enhancements have happened since this blog post → <a href="https://cheezyworld.ca/post/stride_workflow/" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">The Stride Workflow | Cheezy's Blog</a></p> 
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								<p>I want to paste 3 gist links but it’s embedding the whole content ugh.</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="elixir"><code class="lang-elixir">https://github.com/agoodway/.claude/blob/main/skills/elixir-genius/SKILL.md
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<p>These 3 links seem to have good Elixir baselines for the AI to follow good tips and practices.</p>
<p>My main concern with AI workflow is:</p>
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<p>I still haven’t found a good way to do this, but it’s getting there. I have a <code>prd.md</code> file that explains how to write and plan a PRD so Claude can ask me the right questions and end up with a good document to actually begin building the thing. The last line of prd.md is:</p>
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								<p>My experiences with all three of your questions is yes - absolutely without question. For me Claude is build very high quality code (verified by static code analysis) that is well tested. There are many others that have had similar success.</p>
<p>For the prd - are you trying to create a document that is for humans to read or are you trying to create a good document for Claude? They are not necessarily the same thing. Human targeted documents have the potential to leave out a lot of implementation details and therefore leave the agent to make a lot of decisions. I wrote about this here → <a href="https://cheezyworld.ca/post/what-is-a-task/" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">What is a task? | Cheezy's Blog</a></p>
<p>Another challenge you might have is speed. Claude will implement a change much faster than a human can. Therefore in order to keep Claude busy you will need to create a lot more requirements and fast.</p>
<p>Finally, the <code>prd.md</code> file is simply a document that is added to context (if I understand how you are using it). Think of it like a suggestion. There is no enforcement from that perspective. You will be prompting it repeatedly to have it follow the rules you have created precisely. Making this a Skill will remove it from context and will cause Claude to follow it more closely. That might be a good step for you.</p>
<p>My process is that I will use the superpowers brainstorming skill ( <a href="https://github.com/obra/superpowers/blob/main/skills/brainstorming/SKILL.md" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">superpowers/skills/brainstorming/SKILL.md at main · obra/superpowers · GitHub</a> ) to create a document that describes the next feature the team plans to implement.  I then ask Claude to break this document down into goals and tasks using Skills that are a part of Stride. When this is finished I end up with a list of very detailed tasks that the agents can consume.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p> 
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