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								<p>Yep, like I said: the faster the Elixir community sets this as the standard, the less people will suffer <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/smiley.png?v=15" title=":smiley:" class="emoji" alt=":smiley:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>It was decided quite a while ago…</p>
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<p>Also I think the debate for tabs vs spaces was settled long ago in Elixir; spaces.</p>
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								<p>I usually go with whatever the standard for that language seems to be, so tabs for C, 2 spaces for Elixir and Html, and 4 spaces for most other languages.</p> 
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								<p>I would comment this<code> poor Richard</code> <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Or, you could NOT write highly nested code <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/slight_smile.png?v=15" title=":slight_smile:" class="emoji" alt=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Old thread, but someone above linked to this link:  <a href="https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TabsAreEvil" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">L'ESPRIT DE COMBINAISON(!!) That</a></p>
<p>However at this section:  <a href="https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TabsAreEvil#toc7" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">December, 1780, your lordship</a></p>
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<p>This is precisely what I do almost everywhere (except elixir because friggin spaces are prevalent in elixir, so I follow the pattern, ugh).  I’ve been a big pusher for this style for over 2 decades now.  You have custom indention levels, proper alignment, everything.</p> 
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<p>Yeah it’s what I usually do… I don’t see why others don’t. Each user can us their preferred indentation size and everything still always aligns as the writer intended.</p>
<p>I of course write code in other people projects as they prefer the code to be. But in my house we use tabs for indentation and spaces for alignment.</p> 
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								<p>Do you mean use the tab KEY to step to the right indentation level but have space characters in the file then I agree. If you mean have tab characters in the actual file then I disagree. Having tab chars only works if <strong><em>everyone</em></strong> can agree on the size of a tab otherwise it totally screws things up.</p>
<p>All you need to do is to set <code>indent-tabs-mode</code> to <code>nil</code> and you are set. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>How does it screw everything up?<br>
If the tab CHAR is used for indentation but with added spaces the few times some alignment is needed then the visual impact of the code is the same for everyone <strong>no matter what they have have tab spacing set to</strong>. Giving the each person the ability to have a preference without it ever affecting others in any way and still everyone will see the code correctly aligned as intended.</p>
<p>If you look at the example OvermindDL1 gave just above then this code will be the same everywhere. <strong>x</strong> will always align with <strong>y</strong> wether or not the viewer has his tabs size set to 4, 2 or 11 spaces.</p> 
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<p>Do you mean use the tab KEY to step to the right indentation level but have space characters in the file then I agree. If you mean have tab characters in the actual file then I disagree. Having tab chars only works if everyone can agree on the size of a tab otherwise it totally screws things up.</p>
<p>All you need to do is to set indent-tabs-mode to nil and you are set. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Tab as indention and space as alignment always works perfectly, and each use can set their own tab size and it auto-adjusts as expected, such as in my prior quoted example:</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="cpp"><code class="lang-cpp">// 4-tabstop
int f(int x,
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---&gt;return g(x,
---&gt;.........y);
}


// 2-tabstop
int f(int x,
......int y) {
-&gt;return g(x,
-&gt;.........y);
}


// 8-tabstop
int f(int x,
......int y) {
-------&gt;return g(x,
-------&gt;.........y);
}
</code></pre>
<p>So the <code>int y</code> is always aligned, since spaces are used for alignment, the indention of the return block (and its after-aligned <code>y</code>) adjust as expected, etc…  Been programming this way for almost two decades.</p> 
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