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								<p>To be honest, I wonder when <code>git</code> is smart enough to realize that when working with certain source code files, a line change that only adds a comma to the end is not that important. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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<p>You are separating a sentence, basically a single ‘expression’, what this is talking about is when expressions-as-arguments are long enough that they no longer fit on one line, other-wise yes you would only use a single line.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>It’s all exampled in this thread.  <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/wink.png?v=15" title=":wink:" class="emoji" alt=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
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<p>Yep yep, we need a Bikeshedding category/tag on these forums.  ^.^</p>
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<p>Then it’s not a perfect textual diff.  ^.^</p> 
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								<p>it’s arguably better if that single line of text has a lot of horizontal scrolling.</p>
<p>it’s the same idea with lists, and maps, etc.</p>
<p>sometimes you write them in a single line, and other times, you don;t</p> 
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<p>Indeed long argument functions are painful, however a singular argument can be long in a set as well as it may not be a function but rather a macro thus the shape of the resultant AST needs to be kept intact.</p> 
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								<p>I’m not sure I like macros either after trying to conditionally call a plug <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/confused.png?v=15" title=":confused:" class="emoji" alt=":confused:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>It might not be that you have a lot of arguments, but that the arguments themselves are long. for example with pattern matching</p>
<pre data-code-wrap="elixir"><code class="lang-elixir">def some_user_company_thing(%User{} = user, %Company{} = company, params \\ %{}) do
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<p>even just that starts getting long, imagine adding a guard</p>
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<p>maybe i’m weird but i prefer to see things like that than start horizontal scrolling in my code.</p>
<p>also, i don’t care a whole lot about the trailing comma, it’s helpful but not a huge pain point, it was mostly a tongue-in-cheek post, but we managed to get some discussion out of it <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/joy.png?v=15" title=":joy:" class="emoji" alt=":joy:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p> 
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								<p>Idk.<br>
In my world, function arguments indicate only what the function accepts.<br>
I would never manipulate data there, because that’s supposed to happen in the function body.<br>
I feel that if manipulation happens in the function arguments, as well as in the function body, there’s now two places where bugs can happen.<br>
Combined with SRP, my arguments never get long.  ¯\ (ツ) /¯</p>
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								<p>Huh, this same issue got discussed on the ReasonML repo lately too, they gave a good reason (this is the owner of ReasonML speaking):</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/facebook/reason/pull/1775#issuecomment-359957416" class="onebox" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">https://github.com/facebook/reason/pull/1775#issuecomment-359957416</a></p>
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<p>I’ve found that trailing commas help with a bit of paren-fatigue as well, because it helps you distinguish closing parens for arguments/tuples/variants from parens whose only purpose is to resolve precedence - at least in the case where things break onto multiple lines. It’s a small help, but it is a help.</p>
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								<p>I think people who aren’t supportive with trailing comma are the ones <strong>who never used it</strong>.</p>
<p>Eg. <a class="mention" href="/u/wolfdan" rel="nofollow">@WolfDan</a>:</p>
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<p>Hum it seems useless hahahaha</p>
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<p>You completely discredited yourself by not being aware of what the topic was about. <img src="https://forum.elixirforum.com/images/emoji/apple/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=15" title=":stuck_out_tongue:" class="emoji" alt=":stuck_out_tongue:" loading="lazy" width="20" height="20"></p>
<p>IMHO:</p>
<p>In addition to the <code>git diff</code> argument, a few haven’t been mentioned:</p>
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<li>so many mistakes would be avoided: when you duplicate a line, or invert two lines, and don’t see that one of those doesn’t have the comma, it is another 5 seconds lost</li>
<li>in general, when writing enumeration in code, it is much more comfortable not to have to think <em>is this the last item of my list?</em> and put a comma instinctively</li>
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<p>I understand that this <a href="https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/issues/7122" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">is not compatible with optional parenthesis</a>, which, even though I am not a big fan of it, makes functional code clearer (since functional means that there will be many function calls, hence many parentheses).</p>
<p><strong>But I think it is worth the price.</strong></p>
<p>Removing optional parenthesis would encourage us to write less nested code, which is a positive external effect of it.</p>
<p>Cheers</p> 
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