fgallaire
Alias, import and defdelegate are a mess?
ISTM that alias, import and defdelegate are limited and confusing, and certainly my worst experience in Elixir.
I just would like to do the Elixir equivalent of Python from module import function as new_name for coding concision and clarity.
alias works only for module names
import has except and only keywords but not an as or alias one
defdelegate:
- doesn’t work with macros
- has a logical but confusingly inversed
as:keyword - use confusing “shadow variables” (instead of arity as in
import) - needs to be done in a second module to be call in the first one “body”
To avoid the defdelegate mess which is not done for that, we should have a working import with alias mecanism.
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josevalim
alias and import serve complete different purposes than defdelegate. defdelegate is about extending your public API by delegating to something else, that’s why it has different requirements.
I really dislike from module import function as new_name seen in Python and in other languages because you are introducing a name in that project that can’t be found anywhere else. If you rename something to prefix_foo_bar, that name exists only in that file, and trying to look for it in the documentation, Google, or anywhere else will most likely fail. If you really want to rename something, it is better to be explicit at it and define a private function you use locally. Or, as others have said, rely on aliases to do the disambiguation.
josevalim
We can’t evaluate language features in a vacuum.
In Python, I don’t think you can meta-program the construct above, so it is always explicit. In Elixir, however, that could be hidden inside a use, and that would be a recipe for disaster.
There are other ways to work around import limitations, defdelegate is not one of them.
alexiss
The concrete realization of e in comments above depends on your needs, thats because we are asking you about your whole problem. I think, you don’t need Macro.escape at all. For example to match on map keys solution may looks like this:
defmodule Test do
defmacrop e(kv) do
quote do
%{unquote_splicing(kv)}
end
end
def me(e(a: 10)), do: :a_key_10
def me(e(a: 20)), do: :a_key_20
def me(e(b: _)), do: :b_key
end
then in iex:
iex(3)> Test.me(%{a: 10})
:a_key_10
iex(4)> Test.me(%{a: 20})
:a_key_20
iex(5)> Test.me(%{b: :any})
:b_key
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NobbZ
Importing is done via the import call. It will enable you to call functions from the imported module in your current scope without having to qualify them by the module.
So after import Enum, you can write map(list, &(&1+1)) instead of having to write Enum.map(list, &(&1+1)).
importing is rarely really necessary, and unless building an EDSL should be avoided.
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