benwilson512
Always use Releases
Correct if me I’m wrong, as best I can tell there aren’t any reasons to use mix run --no-halt in production vs releases. The marginal value always outweighs the marginal cost.
Marginal cost:
I’ve seen a lot of folks think that using releases means you MUST have a separate build vs application server/image/whatever. Heroku is a good example. You have a buildpack that contains Elixir and you compile your app with mix. What is the marginal cost of using releases on heroku?
Just one extra command! mix release, and then you run ./bin/myapp foreground instead of mix run --no-halt
Marginal value:
The marginal cost is low, what value do we get for that cost? There are some handy defaults surrounding remote console capability and heart (although frankly I’m a bit unclear about in what scenarios it’s going to act).
The PRIMARY value though is that releases will eagerly load all of your application and dependency code, whereas mix does so lazily.
For projects with many dependencies, there can be a massive latency spike when you first get requests / jobs that occur after starting your app with mix while it loads all your code. This can cause timeouts and error cascades. Sure the supervisor trees generally restart but there are situations where you exceed supervisor restarts per second limits and you end up having enormous portions of your app restart.
Conclusion.
Marginal cost / benefit: (handy defaults + EAGER CODE LOADING) / (one extra command)
Am I missing something? This seems like a hands down win for always using releases.
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bitwalker
In my opinion, nobody should be building releases on their production host - they shouldn’t even have build tools installed on that host. You build your releases on your build host, and push those to production and then pull the trigger on rolling it out when you’re ready. This can be entirely automated, automated with some manual intervention, or done entirely manually.
I’ve set up and used different approaches depending on what I’m working on - with Docker/Kubernetes, there were dedicated hosts in the cluster which handled builds, and transfers of those images to the production hosts were super fast because they were colocated. Similarly, with a more traditional setup, we used Jenkins to build releases, and scp them to staging/production hosts and unpack them. My current project, we’re actually shipping virtual machines, so it’s an entirely different situation, but we’re still using releases (which are ultimately installed on the host via rpms).
The release tarballs are certainly a bit fat if you are including ERTS, but if your build and prod hosts are the same, then you don’t need to do that, and can omit ERTS, which is by far the bulk of the baggage the tarball carries.
sasajuric
I agree. I believe that OTP releases for systems (aka services that need to run continuously), and escripts for CLI tools are the way to go. Maybe there are some special cases, but can’t think of any.
I wouldn’t say that eager loading is the primary value, although it depends on the use case. I suspect that many systems are not that highly loaded for that to make a difference.
I do think that the defaults you mention, which allows remote logging and start the system as the node (so you can remote observe it) are more important.
But above all, I like the self-contained, isolated nature of the release. You won’t pickup some unexpected module from somewhere else (e.g. mix app is not included in OTP release, so less chances of invoking Mix.env at runtime), and you can easily run multiple different systems (services) with different versions of Elixir/Erlang.
I also agree that the cost is marginal. But even if it takes longer to properly setup your own build and deployment, it’s a one-off cost. Pay the price once, reap the benefits many times 
benwilson512
Releases have no issue with environment variables. REPLACE_OS_VARS=true, and then in your config just foo: "${FOO}". We use identical images in staging and production, and do all config changes by specifying environment variables in our docker containers.








