woohaaha
I see a lot of posts/discussions around authorization and how one should not mix it up with business logic. So in the controller they will authorize, and then perform the action.
In my head I feel like authorization IS business logic. Authorization is part of the rules that make an app operate as intended. I kind of want authorization logic to sit right next to resource actions.
def create_user(attrs, %User{role: role} = current_user) do
with :ok <- authorize(:create_user, role),
changeset = User.changeset(attrs),
{:ok, user} = Repo.insert(attrs) do:
# stuff
end
Can anyone explain concretely why authorization is NOT business logic?
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hauleth
While I agree that authorisation is part of the business logic, I disagree that authorisation is part of
create_userfunction. While this indeed prevents (in most cases) accidental omission of the check, it makes API less flexible, which mean that we need additional functions to create 1st user or create users in tests.stefanchrobot
Totally agreed. My app supports multiple accounts and I let the contexts function handle authorization. Here’s a sample controller code:
My context actually filters by account+group id, so it never returns
:unauthorized(so the controller code is a bit different).woohaaha
I tend to think about it from a reliability perspective. I want flexibility, but not at the cost of reliability. If I were to
create_useranywhere without the proper authorization than the result is not accurate to the way it “should” work.I think having “seed data” in applications is normal. Seeds commonly skirt lots of constraints. Like perhaps setting up an Admin account that doesn’t need a UI. A one-time task.
I’d want to trust my tests to be reflective of the real world scenario. If I’m allowed to create resources, like users, but without the proper constraints on the application it does leave a hole that hopefully
is covered by an integration test.
I think at the very least authorization should live IN the context and not in the controller. There’s the idea of inter-context communication but then suddenly the Authorization module knows all types of things about the rest of the app. If the authorization function is already in the context, then it is only logical to put it even closer to the risky code, hence me putting it INTO the
create_userfunction.Just thinking this through and I’m still not comfortable with having auth far away (another module) from the code it cares about.
woohaaha
Yeah, I totally get this. Curious why lots of other people prefer the authorization part far away (another module) from the code it cares about.
Also, having authorization far from code it cares about can be a performance risk in scenarios where the authorization has to make a DB call (or similar).
benwilson512
If this is related to comments I made in the RBAC thread, I’ll clarify a bit here.
I agree with this. What I was warning about was making all business logic authorization logic. That is to say, it’s reasonable to ask “is this user authorized to create a user”. It’s also reasonable to say “Is it valid to create a user with no username? No”. But it’d be weird to say “You are authorized to create a user with a valid user name, and not authorized to create a user without a username”.
All of it is business logic, but within the domain of business logic there are some questions that make sense rendered in terms of authorization, and other questions that make more sense rendered in terms of validation. If you treat auth as merely one of a dozen different properties that must be true about an entity when it is being created then it blurs that line in a way that I think is unhelpful.
woohaaha
I don’t think so, but you have me interested
Agreed.
I’m trying to come up with rules about applying authorization. I don’t think having all authorization in the specific functions (create_x, list_x, update_x, etc…) makes sense in many cases. I also don’t think having an Authorization module makes sense since it cares about every other (many?) contexts.
Now I’m leaning towards having auth in context, but implemented at the highest level of the entry point (Controller, Absinthe Resolver) so the auth lives close to the code it cares about, but is sufficiently high enough in the call stack to prevent multiple auth calls. Example:
In this scenario every context would have authorize functions that are called, most likely, up the call stack, but may well be implemented in the context if the scenario makes sense.
That’s all I got right now.
woohaaha
I have another thread running: Why was equal sign used in with statement?
And given all the feedback I now really like the implementation with the caveat that Authorization can be used in the context under the right circumstances.
bennelsonweiss
Two comments about this, see the reference number in the code block for each:
It depends what
Blogs.get_postreturns here, but if it returns likeMap.getthen it will either return a blog post ornil, and since you’re using=there either will be a valid return value.This means that you could be passing
niltoBlogs.update_postwhich would probably result in an error if you’re not checking fornilinBlogs.update_post.A cleaner solution would be either to use a version of
Blogs.get_post!that raises or aBlogs.fetch_postthat returns either{:ok, post}or and error that you can match on during thewith.error -> {:error, error}may not behave how you expect- ifBlogs.update_postreturns{:error, error}then you’re capturing that value aserror, which means you’re returning{:error, {:error, error}}from thewith.woohaaha
Thank you @bennelsonweiss
Much appreciated
stefanchrobot
Wow, great insight! I always struggled whether my context should return the schema or an ok/error tuple. Using get/fetch approach makes total sense and it follows the std lib.