The reason that Rails is as popular as it is is because it’s very easy for relatively inexperienced developers to get a lot of work done. Is that work a poorly designed mess? Yes, yes it is. And so what? That’s just the nature of the beast at the moment. It doesn’t reflect on Rails, it’s just the current state of software development. The demand for developers is such that someone fresh out of a code school with no college can be making six figures within a year or two, even outside of Silicon Valley. Their work is going to be a poorly designed mess no matter how you slice it.
But even if it’s a mess, companies would rather have apps that are poorly designed, buggy, and going to be difficult to expand later than no apps at all. It’s a nice idea to encourage people to build better apps, but it’s horribly impractical to expect it in the current ecosystem. We live in a world where developers with 4 years of experience and a poor understanding of design patterns are considered ‘senior,’ and that’s not changing in the next 5 years.
In another thread, Chris McCord said, “we are asking folks to isolate functionality behind modules and functions.” And I say, no, you’re asking folks to understand the concepts and importance of isolating functionality before being allowed to build a Phoenix app. You’re making it so that someone who doesn’t have a solid foundation in design patterns is going to run into a brick wall of confusion before they can even make a Hello World app. Anyone who understands and appreciates the values of these concepts is going to implement them without needing to be steered into it. All you’re really accomplishing is to doom Phoenix to being a niche framework. Maybe that’s what the community wants. If it is, I can only hope that someone builds another framework in elixir that I can use.
I’ve seen a lot of people saying, “Phoenix is not your application.” Well, stop it! Who are you to tell someone what their application is or isn’t. If they don’t understand the concept, repeating a catch phrase over and over isn’t going to fix the problem, it’s just going to encourage them to move on to something else with a community where people are being helpful rather than condescending.