Rustixir

Rustixir

Hi everyone, im working on find best language/framework/system for
high concurrency, high performance and stable performance

after working 3 years in Erlang/Beam i decision to find better than erlang because
I read many where said: Erlang/Beam is slow !!

then I started to learn and working many real-world project with Rust,
then i find ( Tokio )
(from Tokio website: )

Tokio is an asynchronous runtime for the Rust programming language. It provides the building blocks needed for writing network applications. It gives the flexibility to target a wide range of systems, from large servers with dozens of cores to small embedded devices.

after working with it i thought its great because doing message passing with backpressure in channel like golang style

after writing a distributed realtime database in rust ,
I see a unstable performance even with ( heavy optimized ) was not great
I stopped it and done many research about more optimizing and then
writing a very low cost message broker with persistent for our back-end but again i saw unstable performance

then I switch to Elixir because (I heard about JIT) and from before I have experienced with it for a real-world project

I started prototyping 2 scenario message passing,
differenece was huge .

Beam was Winner in both Scenario: ( seq/concurrent client request to server)

  1. ==> Request call 1000
  2. ==> Request call 1000000

Scenario 1 Result ( Rust/Tokio : 65,798 ns __ Elixir: 15,385 ns )
Scenario 2 Result ( Rust/Tokio : 4,256,639 ns ___ Elixir: 299,920 ns )

and the end

after many research about distributed real-time database
after compare many case , find

Mnesia is best ever made Distributed real-time database and many developer
if elixir developers be smart, using it in near future for all OLTP real-time application

now our using Mnesia for read-heavy application
under heavy load,

its have many many great features we not found in other db
it is really complete

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dimitarvp

dimitarvp

I really like to believe that. But do you have repo(s) that demonstrate the difference? I would love to take a look!

I know Erlang has been getting pretty fast lately but I have my doubts; I’ve been going back to writing a Rust<->Elixir bridge again and in release mode plain async code (without orchestration except just proper yield points) executes in like 50 nanoseconds. But that obviously depends on what you call – I am talking about very plain Rust code in this case.

So, can you show us something more?

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benwilson512

benwilson512

Author of Craft GraphQL APIs in Elixir with Absinthe

Be careful with mnesia, it is not necessarily the easiest thing to use in real world scenarios. Its handling of netsplits is pretty iffy, and there are challenges you can run into if you are regularly adding or removing nodes during deployment (eg, rolling deployment).

The BEAM is absolutely awesome at message passing, but any use of mnesia needs to be done very carefully and with serious testing of its edge cases.

cmkarlsson

cmkarlsson

Here is a message passing thread from the erlang forum. Don’t know if it is related but at least in the ring benchmark rust comes out quite a bit faster.

Rustixir

Rustixir OP

Thanks again, for giving me a vision of more about the next benchmark.
I will write better benchmark tomorrow

Tomorrow morning everything will be clear :joy:

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Rustixir

Rustixir OP

My focus was message passing else even junior developer know rust is one of fastest , and i love it .

You said expert rust progammer !!

I sended this rust codes to Alice , she is
one of maintance Tokio developer,

She said two way for this ,

First was parallel call and await on all responses
(Actually this was not good comparing because in Elixir i use genserver call and it block process untill get response or timeout )

Second was using Single-thread Scheduler.

Actually we not want prove which always run faster , we just want see Beam how much is fast and forget stress of speed

now, I know Beam is very fast
Glad I took the time to discuss this, I learned good things, thank you all guys :wink::dizzy:

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