Well that just shows the level of maturity of people preparing the report.
It’s hard to estimate uptake but going by the number of listings on Indeed they have grown significantly since march I’d say like 3x.
Trending repos on github - https://github.com/trending/elixir (e.g. daily), and the package manager - https://hex.pm/ (“new packages” / “recently updated”) - can be used to gauge the activity; As well as this forum (usually 5-8 new posts per day) and numerous elixir news feeds like https://twitter.com/elixirstatus (the amount of elixir-related news feeds on twitter is in itself telling). Another thing is youtube conference videos saturation, which is again very high and there’s never enough time to watch them all.
As you delve deeper into the unknown you find out that the smaller projects of the hipster bunch often have incomparably less traction in the above departments.
Growth can be good, but people tend to underestimate the cost of growth too. Massive influxes of new people put strain on existing community members and infrastructure, and can make it difficult to maintain cultural values. Cultural values in the programming world constitute things like code and library best practices, attitude towards beginners, and the overall tone of dialogue.
To me focusing on getting on some list is an empty goal. So long as we have people coming to this community, learning, and writing Elixir that’s success for me.
Oh that’s nothing, I’ve been writing PHP for the last 15 years, heard much worse!
I actually like it being a smaller community, it means the help on offer is not diluted as much, and hopefully over time I can give back.
When it becomes a “top 50” language, it can quickly turn a community into something unpleasant. I don’t think the focus should be on getting more people using Elixir, rather make the ecosystem and tools so good that people will naturally gravitate towards it.
Erlang first appeared in 1986 and was designed to be functional, concurrent and fault-tolerant to satisfy key demands of its application domain on the most fundamental level. This lead to the development of the BEAM virtual machine which saw it’s first use first commercial use in 1995. In 2011 Elixir started to make the BEAM more accessible to an audience which potentially would have avoided it based on Erlang’s perceived strange syntax and concepts.
It’s unlikely that these different evolutionary paths would tend to foster similar cultures.
Nevertheless, it’s always worthwhile to be vigilant.
So… firstly: the TIOBE index is completely meaningless. I mean … VB. c’mon
Their metric of search engine relevance is just so obviously without meaning I’m not sure why anyone takes it seriously. That is not a data set that follows current trends, but discussion and noise. Which correlates coarsely to usage, and certainly will show strongly for more often used languages.
But even if we assume that there is meaning in those numbers, the small numbers for those languages outside the top 20 or so are so small and with so little spread between them, any tiny perturbation will show up huge. So languages jump and fall 5-10 spaces … and it means nothing.
But it is good for TIOBE to keep relevance and eyeballs pointed at them. Ok, part 1: The Critique of TIOBE, done
improve documentation. it still isn’t good enough. this is low-hanging fruit. (i should take my own advice here)
reach out to companies and open source projects to make them aware of the benefits of Elixir
attend local tech events and spread the word
create more awesome libraries
create end user applications that people can download and use
On that last point … I use node.js on one of my servers because of Ghost, a blogging platform. It is quite nice from a user’s perspective, but their use of node is just horrible for maintenance and deployment. But, it provides a useful application.
What application is useful, that is written in Elixir, that I could use on my server? Honest question
The latest Tiobe index doesn’t show Elixir at all.
I’m not sure if that means it’s dropped out of the top 100, or if they’ve just stopped tracking it.
Redmonk’s rankings should be out this month so it should be interesting to see where they place it.