sergio

sergio

Elixir language growth - the TIOBE index

There’s a new TIOBE index report that came out that shows Elixir is still not in the top 50 used languages.

It also goes on to call Elixir a “hipster programming language”.

The hipster programming languages Kotlin, Elixir and Hack didn’t progress much this month. Kotlin lost 5 positions, Hack lost 6 positions and Elixir is still not in the top 50 losing also 5 positions.



Does anyone have any Elixir numbers on growth? I really love the language and it’s ecosystem, I’m just curious what the numbers are.

What are some things that we as developers can do to extend Elixir?

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kokolegorille

kokolegorille

There is this very long thread https://forum.elixirforum.com/t/what-can-we-do-to-accelerate-the-adoption-of-elixir/2398/25 where you might find some ideas.

andre1sk

andre1sk

Well that just shows the level of maturity of people preparing the report.
It’s hard to estimate uptake but going by the number of listings on Indeed they have grown significantly since march I’d say like 3x.

mwgkgk

mwgkgk

Trending repos on github - Trending Elixir repositories on GitHub today · GitHub (e.g. daily), and the package manager - https://hex.pm/ (“new packages” / “recently updated”) - can be used to gauge the activity; As well as this forum (usually 5-8 new posts per day) and numerous elixir news feeds like ElixirStatus (@elixirstatus) / X (the amount of elixir-related news feeds on twitter is in itself telling). Another thing is youtube conference videos saturation, which is again very high and there’s never enough time to watch them all.

As you delve deeper into the unknown you find out that the smaller projects of the hipster bunch often have incomparably less traction in the above departments.

AstonJ

AstonJ

These threads/posts might interest you :003:

In short, I think most of us are very happy with how Elixir is growing - it’s doing extremely well :048:

  1. Build cool things with Elixir
  2. Build cool things for Elixir
  • Spread the word about Elixir (and why it’s so good)
  • Help onboard newcomers by writing blog posts/articles/guides doing screencasts etc
  • Be active in the community - the more active a community is the more attractive it is for others

:slight_smile:

benwilson512

benwilson512

Author of Craft GraphQL APIs in Elixir with Absinthe

Growth can be good, but people tend to underestimate the cost of growth too. Massive influxes of new people put strain on existing community members and infrastructure, and can make it difficult to maintain cultural values. Cultural values in the programming world constitute things like code and library best practices, attitude towards beginners, and the overall tone of dialogue.

To me focusing on getting on some list is an empty goal. So long as we have people coming to this community, learning, and writing Elixir that’s success for me.

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AstonJ

AstonJ

^^ :023:

I feel the people we need to attract (at this point in time) won’t be paying too much attention to those lists… as is already evident by just looking around.

benperiton

benperiton

Oh that’s nothing, I’ve been writing PHP for the last 15 years, heard much worse! :wink:

I actually like it being a smaller community, it means the help on offer is not diluted as much, and hopefully over time I can give back.

When it becomes a “top 50” language, it can quickly turn a community into something unpleasant. I don’t think the focus should be on getting more people using Elixir, rather make the ecosystem and tools so good that people will naturally gravitate towards it.

PatNowak

PatNowak

No one ever considered me as a hipster - thanks Tiobe index :smiley:
Seriously - Elixir should sooner or later will take Ruby’s place.

OvermindDL1

OvermindDL1

Uhhh, wut? Isn’t Kotlin near the number one android programming language now? I heard it had almost (or did?) overtake java…

sergio

sergio

Yes, I agree with this. I would hate to see Elixir turn into a javascript-like ecosystem.

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