Elixir vs. Java, Ruby, and PHP - Seeking case studies or an interview with a community member

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@OvermindDL1

Eh, don’t be that hard on Java:

I’m not hard for Java. It’s my experience using Groovy/Grails and Tomcat about 2 years ago.

@OvermindDL1

• The types help ensure your program is correct, which cannot be said about Elixir (though java does not go far enough, everything can be cast to an Object like you can to void* in C, blehg)

I don’t had yet any problems related to that, so it’s not a best pros for me.

@OvermindDL1

• Tomcat is indeed hell, but don’t use it, there are much better server containers for java programs than Tomcat.

I don’t - it was introduced in my first job. Owner was a really good person that listen others, but anyway imagine that he will change working solution like Tomcat to something else, because new developer says that it’s a slow as hell.

@OvermindDL1

Java7 is actually much faster than before and you can make good software in it now without fighting with it too much. However Joomla and Wordpress are both ‘old PHP’ things that are not made well. And with PHP it is easier to have security problems, but with enough discipline those are minimized (however yes, there are still lots of security issues with PHP, PHP7 closed more of those thankfully). It’s still faster than Ruby/Rails though.

You mean PHP 7, right?
I also heard something about it and I can agree that it’s faster than Ruby, but in these 2 languages speed is not a big problem for newbie. They are enough fast to start work on it without required break for tea.

@OvermindDL1

More secure by default is great yeah, but using PHP frameworks you get a lot of that too (if you tried to, say, re-implement Rails on Ruby you’d probably have a lot of security issues as well), but even by default Rails has a lot of security issues that are easy to fall in to unless you know to avoid them. Also Ruby/Rails is a lot slower than Groovy (no clue about Grails), and tomcat you should avoid anyway.

Hmm, interesting … I don’t compared their runtime speed. I don’t have so much time to develop two small similar projects.

@OvermindDL1

You get this with about any language with any decent IDE, and many languages, like Rust, do the same built-in. I think the biggest advantage of Elixir is it is built on the BEAM and instead of entirely ignoring its heritage it instead embraces it, which helps people to write proper code the first time instead of trying to figure it out (great docs for the BEAM!).

hahah, you don’t understand me - I mean a result of that command like example of documentation and tests. Sorry, next time I will be more precise